Lickety Split wrote:
ryan foreman wrote:Ridiculous. However Salazar did say that Rupp would only run the Olympic 5,000M if he did something incredible in the 5000M trials. I take that to mean Rupp is going to at least attempt something incredible. That would probably mean some combination of front running and a blistering finish.
It's going to be crazy .... Galen's going to take the top spots under 13:00
Just stop.
fwiw I really do hope Rupp does a 5/10 double if he qualifies. I know I'm in the minority on this board. But one thing that seems set in stone and beyond dispute is that Rupp is focused on winning a medal in the 10K. I hear the commentators say that he is doing "marathon training". But I believe they are wrong. He is doing 10K training. They cite his large volume of 140+ miles/week. But 30 of those miles is in water. It amounts to the same volume of miles he was doing leading up to the 2012 olympics. They cite the long runs he is doing (up to 23 miles) but that is not much different than the 10k training he has done in the past. Moreoever, he is clearly doing speed training and will do more of it after the OT.
Knowing that he is focused on the 10K, doing the 10K/marathon double strikes me as dumb. If Rupp invests so much training on speed work to compete in the 10K why waste that running the marathon? I don't even care if he has little chance to medal in the 5K.
Moreover, he has the better part of the next 10 years to be great at the marathon. On the other hand this is his last chance to compete on the track in the Olympics. He should make the most of it while he can.
No, you are a quoter and a hater.
Whether you like it or not, Rupp is the best we have ever had.
ryan foreman wrote:
They cite the long runs he is doing (up to 23 miles) but that is not much different than the 10k training he has done in the past.
Yeah, 23 miles is only a little more than 10k, and 26 miles is quite a bit farther.
I believe Rupp has done 16-17mile for long runs in years past. Not exactly a huge difference.
Mathematician wrote:
ryan foreman wrote:They cite the long runs he is doing (up to 23 miles) but that is not much different than the 10k training he has done in the past.
Yeah, 23 miles is only a little more than 10k, and 26 miles is quite a bit farther.
- I think you are on to something .....
- Salazaar's going to continue to emphasize "SPEED" & accept risk in VOLUME for the marathon.
- I think you're right .... AlSal's going for a 10K main effort while simultaneously gaining marathon experience. The marathon payday is still out there in either the Fall or the Spring in a post-Olympic year.
Penn Stately wrote:
No, you are a quoter and a hater.
Whether you like it or not, Rupp is the best we have ever had.
I'll own up to being a hater, sure.
But I don't have any issue with Rupp. Never have. However there is no way he runs sub-13:00 in the Trials against the rest of those scrubs.
- He's going sub-13 .... he's looking to prove 2 things:
#1 Portland Indoors: You all beat me at the 3K was an anomaly ...
#2 10K Prep: He'll judge his 10K fitness on ability to generate a smoking 5K ... he has to be comfortable w/a 13:15 to 13:20 opening 5K.
- The rest won't race him .... they'll call his bluff on 5K/10K versus 10k/Marathon. They'll play the "sit & kick" given their soft PRs.
Lickety Split wrote:
- He's going sub-13 .... he's looking to prove 2 things:
#1 Portland Indoors: You all beat me at the 3K was an anomaly ...
#2 10K Prep: He'll judge his 10K fitness on ability to generate a smoking 5K ... he has to be comfortable w/a 13:15 to 13:20 opening 5K.
- The rest won't race him .... they'll call his bluff on 5K/10K versus 10k/Marathon. They'll play the "sit & kick" given their soft PRs.
Possible yes. Likely, no.
There's not going to be any AR.
12:53 = soft
Clearly Galen is only running the 5k for Jenkins. He he does the same tatics from the 10k and just disrupts everyone's race but Jenkins just stays smooth and doesn't respond to every move he will have a significantly better chance at a top three spot
- Not tracking: in Galen's world it's "Eric Who?"
- Of course Galen attempts to disrupt other's races .... so do the East & North Africans
ryan foreman wrote:
I believe Rupp has done 16-17mile for long runs in years past. Not exactly a huge difference.
Mathematician wrote:Yeah, 23 miles is only a little more than 10k, and 26 miles is quite a bit farther.
You don't think there is a huge difference between a 16-17 mile long run and a 23 mile long run? If these runs are being done at a moderate to hard effort there is a huge difference..... And I can confidently say Rupp is not wasting his long runs by going easy.
Frat House Runner wrote:
AlSal does not give a rats azz about any other runner.
Why should he? His job is to put Nike Oregon Project athletes at the top. And currently he is doing a damn fine job
Lickety Split wrote:
- Not tracking: in Galen's world it's "Eric Who?"
- Of course Galen attempts to disrupt other's races .... so do the East & North Africans
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Here's exactly what's going to occur on Saturday in the 5K:
- Galen's going for it .... one of the sponsor-less guys is going to go out w/him IOT achieve TV fame while the rest refuse to race him & create a 2nd pack that's going strictly tactical.
- The Hayward Field crowd will begin to Boo .... Lagat, seeing that the end is near will buckle under the taunting & work his way up to Galen ... consider him the "rabbit" ... the crowd will go nuts & Bernard will fill good about himself after he drops out after the 2nd mile or comes in close to last for taking chance. Lagat's looking for a noble way to go out ....
- Galen's going to run a 12:52 ..... next up is Jenkins/Chelimo at 13:12.
why not USOC or IAAF isnt busting his coach or getting warrant to search his home so why not question what happened to the orther dirty birds who used to do world class workouts after running world class times ? except for centro who claims he doesnt train with him any more where is cain ? where cam levin?
right AR for RUPP
no warrant for Salazar
- Let it go
I don't know what you mean by huge. If you are saying that just that 6 miles makes all the difference between marathon training and 10K training, then no, its not huge at all. I'm curious, is doing 100, 200, and 400M sprint intervals a new form of "marathon training"? because I'm pretty sure that is what Rupp has been doing.
Red Blood Cells wrote:
ryan foreman wrote:I believe Rupp has done 16-17mile for long runs in years past. Not exactly a huge difference.
You don't think there is a huge difference between a 16-17 mile long run and a 23 mile long run? If these runs are being done at a moderate to hard effort there is a huge difference..... And I can confidently say Rupp is not wasting his long runs by going easy.
- Your nailing these guys Mr. Foreman .... you are the Rupp Oracle for this meet.
- Galen's deliberately testing 5K/10K to see the difference in "increased" strength work versus speed of the past & will cash it in during a Fall/Spring marathon when it's nice & cool. Galen's not wasting his time with the marathon on Rio ... he thinks he can win the 10K.