The Next Girls Phenom Has Arrived

She just split a 4:45 1600 anchor for the win in the champ DMR at Nationals.

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

There seem to always be a bunch of promising 7-10th grade female runners, but unfortunately puberty hits and they fail to improve. A recent exception is Hasay and maybe Ostrander (but time will tell yet with AllieO).

Hasay failed to improve as well. She set a national record her junior year in high school and failed to set a PR for 2 years, and then only by a few tenths. Eight years later she's still only 7 seconds faster than her high school time.

Thanks Mr. Tuohy !

Who knows whether she'll continue to improve, but 4:24 is an incredible time. That is worth about a 4:42-3 mile, and it wasn't long ago that a sub 4:40 mile almost never happened for high school girls, and this is an eighth grader. But the less hype the better.

New girls phenom = Sydney McLaughlin 54.46 in the 400 hurdles today

What happens when a transgender girl runs 4:35 for the mile as an 8th grader?

Just wondering but i though you have to compete under your gender with the genitals you have. Like you are a "girl" but have a penis you have to compete with boys? Is that right or...

markschultz25 wrote:

What happens when a transgender girl runs 4:35 for the mile as an 8th grader?

Vid of DMR duel against Destiny Collins, final leg begins at 6:40:

http://www.nbnationalsout.com/eprofile.php?event_id=3689&do=videos&video_id=181014

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Tuohy resembles Hasay from a distance when running.

32-second CR at storied VCP. Entering into history as a freshman.

Androgello Biafra wrote:

32-second CR at storied VCP. Entering into history as a freshman.

*Sophomore

Les wrote:

jjjjjjjjjj wrote:

There seem to always be a bunch of promising 7-10th grade female runners, but unfortunately puberty hits and they fail to improve. A recent exception is Hasay and maybe Ostrander (but time will tell yet with AllieO).

Hasay failed to improve as well. She set a national record her junior year in high school and failed to set a PR for 2 years, and then only by a few tenths. Eight years later she's still only 7 seconds faster than her high school time.

Yeah, Hasay has pretty much underperformed in H.S., College, and now the pros. Should just be teaching 2nd grade somewhere and getting on with her life....

This girl is special, indeed.

I try not to pay too close attention to really young phenoms but Ms. Tuohy is making it hard to ignore her. She certainly seems to be a rare talent. We will need to stay tuned to see just exactly how rare ultimately her talent will be. However, if she never ran another step, she will forever be a legend a VCP.

At this point I don't know whether to compare her talent to that of Jordan Hasay or that of Mary Cain. I suspect she may be somewhere in the middle like Molly Huddle.

The crazy thing is that she is not completely untouchable with talents like HS juniors Claudia Lane in CA and Kelsey Chimiel in NY making some history of their own.

Let's not forget that Jim Ryun hit his 3:51.1 at age 21.

It's the coaching and guidance that young people receive as much as anything. I have seen young boys ruined by overenthusiastic parents.

She beat Sophie Ryan's (PRs: 4:31/9:48 1500/3000) time by almost a minute, and would have been 47th in the Boy's race, beating a 4:19 miler. Looks by eye like close to a 9:00 3K performance on the track, in territory with Cain, Efraimson and Rainsberger, at a younger age.

Katelyn won the NYS state 1500 m title this past spring in 4:18 (as a freshman) beating a very respectable field including Kelsey Chmiel and Jessica Lawson by a substantial. Not that it would have changed the outcome but her legs were fresh compared to some other girls in the field. I do wonder, at what point Al Sal or others from the NOP try to entice her to go pro--that often is not in the best long-term interest of the runner e.g. Cain.

I just pray she doesn't read these threads, and continues to have fun running as her heart and soul allows.

Why can't we just recognize great accomplishments as they occur, while still keeping hope that she (or others as gifted) can ultimately be an NCAA and/or Olympic champion.

I agree just like the little 12 year old girl in Australia who has run 9:26 for 3k and 16:48 for 5k. It all really doesn't matter till they get to the world stage in 8-10 years!