what distance do you run? im sure my ideas will get flamed on here cause its against the "style" of daniels etc, but i believe that i can make some pretty good workouts
what distance do you run? im sure my ideas will get flamed on here cause its against the "style" of daniels etc, but i believe that i can make some pretty good workouts
creeped out wrote:
Some of the parents of the runners are going to talk with the AD. Parents have complained to the head coach before (he is the distance coach), but nothing has happened, he has just been warned.
One of the girls might be willing to talk. She is creeped out and pissed off, because she would like to run in college, she just hasn't had the proper coaching to make it there. She ran 2:27 in the 800 as a freshman, on natural talent alone (she played aau basketball for most of the spring). She wants to run in college, but right now her times are slower than that and she hasn't been developed to the point where she could.
The texts are a little creepy, but the issue with that is that it goes against all VHSL regulations about coaching contact with the athletes. The creepiest the texts get is asking about what we are doing with our time (homework, etc.). It is pretty creepy.
If she wanted to run in college she wouldn't be playing aau basketball.
Post some of his texts.
Sounds like he's "creeping" on the guys just as much as the girls? In that case I see nothing wrong - he just seems like a bored man who maybe cares a little too much for his athletes.
Running slow and little in HS practice is better than too fast and too much. You can always compensate by running on your own. Is it a waste of time? Sure, but not that much. How hard is it for you to run an additional 5 miles everyday? If you are as talented as you seem to think you are, you should be able to knock out an extra 5 miler in 35 minutes tops. Weekends are yours and you can supplement with an extra interval or hard tempo run each weekend plus a long run.
My HS coaches were pretty clueless too, but then most would be when dealing with someone like me who ran 1:50 in HS. Think the school record before I showed up was 1:57, so they had no idea what to do with me.
I linked up with a USATF coach in my region who was running a very competitive track program (that produced multiple state champions and most of their runners go off to run in college). It sucked, but they had practices T-Ths-Sat every week. So I went to those practices on top of my HS training. Helped a butt-load, I won states and qualified for nationals. Also got scholarship to D1 school. It's hard, takes commitment, but it's possible.
p.s. None of the training you do as a HS runner will be nearly as time consuming or intensive as sports like soccer, football, gymnastics, hockey, etc., stuff that requires a REAL life-sucking time commitment to excel. So stop whining like a little btch and figure it out. HS track/XC practice is at most 2 hours a day, at MOST. For kids who do hockey or gymnastics the travel time alone each day can take over an hour.
"Creepy HS Coach"
So Mike Rossi is coaching now?
formerD1 wrote:
Sounds like he's "creeping" on the guys just as much as the girls? In that case I see nothing wrong - he just seems like a bored man who maybe cares a little too much for his athletes.
Running slow and little in HS practice is better than too fast and too much. You can always compensate by running on your own. Is it a waste of time? Sure, but not that much. How hard is it for you to run an additional 5 miles everyday? If you are as talented as you seem to think you are, you should be able to knock out an extra 5 miler in 35 minutes tops. Weekends are yours and you can supplement with an extra interval or hard tempo run each weekend plus a long run.
My HS coaches were pretty clueless too, but then most would be when dealing with someone like me who ran 1:50 in HS. Think the school record before I showed up was 1:57, so they had no idea what to do with me.
I linked up with a USATF coach in my region who was running a very competitive track program (that produced multiple state champions and most of their runners go off to run in college). It sucked, but they had practices T-Ths-Sat every week. So I went to those practices on top of my HS training. Helped a butt-load, I won states and qualified for nationals. Also got scholarship to D1 school. It's hard, takes commitment, but it's possible.
Haven't you told us before that your pr was 1:50? Did you fail to improve at all in college?
Hard to say whether this coach is creepy, friendly or just a little odd but I when I was coaching HS I had a policy that I never contacted my athletes via email or phone without including the parents in the conversation. If I felt the need to have a one-on-one discussion with an athlete I did it with a parent present or called the parent as soon as the conversation was over. Too many chances for a miscommunication or misinterpretation when dealing with young people.
The OP may just be interpreting the coach;s actions incorrectly.
WHFM wrote:
True, but it takes a lot more time and commitment to do this. Rarely, hs runners will donwhat you said. The sad part is all the kids that never learn the most basic thing and therefore have low motivation. What is the basic thing? That you can transform yourself and have a lot of fun improving, no matter your level of talent.
If a HS kid is taking the time to b!tch on LR then he can take the extra 10 min and print off a12 wk training plan from Hudson, McMillan, Pftzinger, etc.. because the truth is at the HS level ANY structured training will put you ahead of 80% of the jokers that show up on race day.
formerD1 wrote:
p.s. None of the training you do as a HS runner will be nearly as time consuming or intensive as sports like soccer, football, gymnastics, hockey, etc., stuff that requires a REAL life-sucking time commitment to excel. So stop whining like a little btch and figure it out. HS track/XC practice is at most 2 hours a day, at MOST. For kids who do hockey or gymnastics the travel time alone each day can take over an hour.
I usually disregard formerD1's stuff because I think he probably enjoys the smell of his own farts, but this is on point.
Are any of the parents of runners concerned about the coach's creepiness? Have them talk to the AD. That will get a response.
This is what's wrong with you and many others. You're parents don't fight your battles. Stand up for yourself.
Perch wrote:
Hard to say whether this coach is creepy, friendly or just a little odd but I when I was coaching HS I had a policy that I never contacted my athletes via email or phone without including the parents in the conversation. If I felt the need to have a one-on-one discussion with an athlete I did it with a parent present or called the parent as soon as the conversation was over. Too many chances for a miscommunication or misinterpretation when dealing with young people.
The OP may just be interpreting the coach;s actions incorrectly.
Yeah, what the OP described doesn't sound creepy as much as it may be a new coach that might be trying too hard. Creepy would be if he was trying to show up a team parties or asking whether the girls had bfs or not.
Texting your athletes about their training/running is not creepy. It's just hands-on and involved. As for being a sucky coach, just run more on your own then!
I agree but the training plan sounds like dog shit
Anuther dwun runer wrote:
Haven't you told us before that your pr was 1:50? Did you fail to improve at all in college?
This isnt the right thread since its been discussed elsewhere (see 800m long run thread). I mentioned I stopped running the 800m after my freshman year XC season because going from 25-35mpw to 70-80mpw killed my speed and I enjoyed the distance events more.
formerD1 wrote:
This isnt the right thread since its been discussed elsewhere (see 800m long run thread). I mentioned I stopped running the 800m after my freshman year XC season because going from 25-35mpw to 70-80mpw killed my speed and I enjoyed the distance events more.
But you manage to mention it in as many threads as you can though, right?