Can one simply refuse to play the game?
Can one simply refuse to play the game?
Bad Wigins wrote:
He ignores the boxes (which does not "cheat" to find what's under them), leaves the room (which the riddle doesn't forbid like it does living in the room forever) and wanders the maze until he finds a way out (which the riddle says is possible with the tools, but doesn't say is impossible without them) thus escaping, satisfying the requirement of "death or escape."
That solves the riddle TO THE LETTER, buddy. No changing it this time.
This falls under the cheating clause. Enjoy your death by minotaur.
FYI I accidentally went to sleep and forgot to respond to this thread last night.
thejeff wrote:
The box is a google search.
I like this line of thought. It's not the right answer, but it shows lateral thinking. More responses like this and I might award you guys a hint.
You shut your mouth wrote:
Is it the third box?
This isn't how the riddle works. Yes and no questions are forbidden. You have to come up with a solution that guarantees escape from the maze.
stink, stank, stunk wrote:
Can one simply refuse to play the game?
Death or escape are his only choices. He can't choose to just "live" in the room for the rest of his life.
Read more:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7242104#ixzz478MrzzZLlook under the table to find the box with a hole under it and choose to lift that box
step 1: cut a hole in the box
He doesn't need to find a tool under the box. He can just open all of the boxes and pick the tool he needs, which is a map.
Riddle states that "only three of the boxes CONTAIN a tool for escape"...and that the tool or death is UNDER the box. If he opens the boxes he doesn't lift them (so doesn't run the risk of death) and will find the tool he needs.
Nowhere does it say that the boxes CONTAIN certain death but it does say there are tools in the boxes so he's safe just opening them all from the top.
Solved.
First thoughts:
The riddle mentions tools or danger under the boxes, but what about inside?
No danger is mentioned inside the boxes. He needs to open the boxes without lifting them.
I'll clarify and say that the boxes aren't "opened," just lifted. Think of a hollow cube with one of the 6 faces missing, and the missing face is facing down, so that the man can just lift the box up to reveal the contents. They aren't treasure chests with a latch on the top or anything like that.
LDOPA wrote:
I'll clarify and say that the boxes aren't "opened," just lifted. Think of a hollow cube with one of the 6 faces missing, and the missing face is facing down, so that the man can just lift the box up to reveal the contents. They aren't treasure chests with a latch on the top or anything like that.
You can't change the riddle when a correct answer doesn't fit the one you had in mind
The boxes are his tools for escape. He should take the boxes with him out into the maze and use them to mark where he has been so he can find his way.
Or death is the only esccape.
I'll bite wrote:
LDOPA wrote:I'll clarify and say that the boxes aren't "opened," just lifted. Think of a hollow cube with one of the 6 faces missing, and the missing face is facing down, so that the man can just lift the box up to reveal the contents. They aren't treasure chests with a latch on the top or anything like that.
You can't change the riddle when a correct answer doesn't fit the one you had in mind
This is always how I pictured the boxes in the riddle. I apologize if people did not have the same mental image of a box that you lift to reveal its contents.
LDOPA wrote:
I'll bite wrote:You can't change the riddle when a correct answer doesn't fit the one you had in mind
This is always how I pictured the boxes in the riddle. I apologize if people did not have the same mental image of a box that you lift to reveal its contents.
Nowhere in the riddle did it say you lifted a box to reveal its contents. It said there was things under the box and things in the box.
I'll bite wrote:
LDOPA wrote:This is always how I pictured the boxes in the riddle. I apologize if people did not have the same mental image of a box that you lift to reveal its contents.
Nowhere in the riddle did it say you lifted a box to reveal its contents. It said there was things under the box and things in the box.
Under and in are essentially the same given the box setup envisioned in the riddle. Please just accept the terms of the riddle and attempt to come up with a legitimate solution.
LDOPA wrote:
I'll bite wrote:Nowhere in the riddle did it say you lifted a box to reveal its contents. It said there was things under the box and things in the box.
Under and in are essentially the same given the box setup envisioned in the riddle. Please just accept the terms of the riddle and attempt to come up with a legitimate solution.
I accept the terms of the riddle...and I came up with a legitimate solution based upon those terms. I'm sure there is another answer that also works based upon the terms of the riddle.
My last post on the topic and sorry that you yourself cannot think outside of the box about your own riddle!
Ok, another thought:
He can lift any boxes and get his tool. Probably a map or a key.
There is no danger under any boxes. Death is certain, no matter what.
LRC poster "I'll bite" has been slayed by a minotaur. Heed this warning.
Return to Index wrote:
Ok, another thought:
He can lift any boxes and get his tool. Probably a map or a key.
There is no danger under any boxes. Death is certain, no matter what.
This is quite good lateral thinking! Again, still far away from the correct answer, but you're on the right path by shifting the paradigm of the riddle!
THE PARADIGM HAS BEEN SHIFTED
You have earned a hint: try not to think to linearly or literally.
One doesn't need to lift or open a box to find the one box with nothing underneath. One may simply peer under the table to find the one box with a hole.
Better yet, kick the table over and then there's no need to lift anything to find the contents of all boxes. Then grab your tools and run.
The instruction sign doesn't mention that one box has nothing under it, so the person wouldn't know this. That means they must all have nothing under them, except of course the table, which is the tool for escape. The person either realizes the table is the way out and escapes, or doesn't and dies. So he lifts any box out of the way, climbs on the table and then over the wall to freedom.