longjack wrote:
sp2 wrote:I'm rooting hard for the guy, but he hasn't done anything noteworthy yet...
you run 148 then 146 then 144.
Not me. I run 2:32 then 2:37 then 2:34.
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2:18.7 is not that fast.
3:28 pace, but for only 2/3rds of the race distance.
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T&F Nut wrote:
I've been rooting for this guy ever since his sophomore year at Oregon. Have talked to him several times. His main issues are in his head. He's his own worst enemy. I hope he has placed those issues behind him. He's always had the ability, just has to believe in himself. I wish him all the best.
The series of injuries Wheating had over the last 4-5 years weren't in his head. A positive attitude does not magically fix a tweaked hamstring or plantar fascia tear. The thing with Wheating is his emotions are on display which shares the roller coaster ride that is the experience of being a professional runner.
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sp2 wrote:
jjjjj wrote:
it is fun to see this and I just hope he has at least one more healthy year after 2010, this time in an Olympic year.
I'm rooting hard for the guy, but he hasn't done anything noteworthy yet.
1:48/3:58/2:18 are not times that are gonna beat anybody when it counts.
Yes, he's looked pretty good thus far, but until he throws down a sub-1:46/
3:38/3:55-ish time, minimum --or beats some real studs in a slow race with a killer finish-- he's just gonna be another also-ran.
We need to see Andy perform in a fast, serious race,... or put out an impressive solo effort where he really busts it.
Enough already of these 'controlled' efforts in soft races. That's all we've seen for the last couple years.
He *might* still have the ability to go low 3:30's, but we need to see some real indication of it sometime soon already.
Well first of all I don't get where you got 3:58 from. He ran a 3:39 1500 almost a month ago, which was the world leader for a couple weeks and is still #5 in the world now. Normally nobody goes faster than 3:35 or 3:34 in an indoor season and that never happens until later in the season. I think he's in great shape, and notice that the last time he ran indoors was leading up to his monster 2010 summer.
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ijenns318 wrote:
sp2 wrote:
I'm rooting hard for the guy, but he hasn't done anything noteworthy yet.
1:48/3:58/2:18 are not times that are gonna beat anybody when it counts.
Yes, he's looked pretty good thus far, but until he throws down a sub-1:46/
3:38/3:55-ish time, minimum --or beats some real studs in a slow race with a killer finish-- he's just gonna be another also-ran.
We need to see Andy perform in a fast, serious race,... or put out an impressive solo effort where he really busts it.
Enough already of these 'controlled' efforts in soft races. That's all we've seen for the last couple years.
He *might* still have the ability to go low 3:30's, but we need to see some real indication of it sometime soon already.
Well first of all I don't get where you got 3:58 from. He ran a 3:39 1500 almost a month ago, which was the world leader for a couple weeks and is still #5 in the world now. Normally nobody goes faster than 3:35 or 3:34 in an indoor season and that never happens until later in the season. I think he's in great shape, and notice that the last time he ran indoors was leading up to his monster 2010 summer.
3:39.8 which equates to 3:57.3 mile. Not that great.
Chris O'Hare has already run 3:54 for the mile this season if you remember and nobody is saying low 3:30's for him!
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It's February. He's 6'5 on a 200 meter track. Made 2:18 look like a jog. Barring injury, he will be in the mix this year.
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bologna man wrote:
Awww bologna... Hicham El G never ran faster than 1:47.18 in an open 800 meter race and Bernard Lagat never ran faster than 1:46.00. I agree with the mile times mentioned but everyone always thinks a world champion 1500/miler needs 1:43 speed.
Until EPO came along, the top milers from about 1970 on for the most part needed 1:45 speed to win major titles. It's always the guys who lack speed trying to find ways to root for people with no wheels. lol
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