*Wheating
*Wheating
How many times has Wheating run a decent opener and declared himself "back" only to have another relatively disappointing season? Reserving judgment until at least the championship portion of the indoor season..
I have made less than $500 from running and have run 1500 that fast (actually it was a mile, and outside, but still).
It's hard to get excited about a pro performance that I've myself equaled.
No Way wrote:
I have made less than $500 from running and have run 1500 that fast (actually it was a mile, and outside, but still).
It's hard to get excited about a pro performance that I've myself equaled.
Actually, I thought about it, and I think I've made $600.
Training Question wrote:
Speaking of running fast early and bonking out later in the season...
How is it that athletes are in such great shape now, and undoubtably want to peak for the Olympic Trials. We've seen a 1:45 for 800, sub 3:40's... Not peak performances but still reasonably fast for this time of year.
Are these athletes doing speed year round? It it their years running and mileage base (along with genetics) that allows them to do this?
I've noticed coaching HS that kids tend to peak after 6-8 weeks of introducing intervals. Obviously they are adolescents so there are many variables here. But can you do speed year round and not crash and burn?
If so is it the intensity/speed of the interval? The volume of intervals? The frequency of how often you do them?
How is it sprinters are on the track working hard every day?
Looking to learn...
This is pretty basic stuff. Yes, you can do intervals year round. If your kids are genuinely peaking after 6 weeks, they're either running intervals too far, too fast, with too little rest, or some combination of these without a decent background of volume. Hitting a wide variety of training paces year round (ex-doing 10+ x100m strides at mile/800 pace 6 months before you plan on actually racing a mile) combined with a substantial amount of volume, some fast-ish, is what gets the best results. There's a wealth of knowledge on here for sorting out the details.
tips wrote:
Training Question wrote:Speaking of running fast early and bonking out later in the season...
How is it that athletes are in such great shape now, and undoubtably want to peak for the Olympic Trials. We've seen a 1:45 for 800, sub 3:40's... Not peak performances but still reasonably fast for this time of year.
Are these athletes doing speed year round? It it their years running and mileage base (along with genetics) that allows them to do this?
I've noticed coaching HS that kids tend to peak after 6-8 weeks of introducing intervals. Obviously they are adolescents so there are many variables here. But can you do speed year round and not crash and burn?
If so is it the intensity/speed of the interval? The volume of intervals? The frequency of how often you do them?
How is it sprinters are on the track working hard every day?
Looking to learn...
This is pretty basic stuff. Yes, you can do intervals year round. If your kids are genuinely peaking after 6 weeks, they're either running intervals too far, too fast, with too little rest, or some combination of these without a decent background of volume. Hitting a wide variety of training paces year round (ex-doing 10+ x100m strides at mile/800 pace 6 months before you plan on actually racing a mile) combined with a substantial amount of volume, some fast-ish, is what gets the best results. There's a wealth of knowledge on here for sorting out the details.
Right... But you aren't running a 1:45 for 800 off 10 X 100.
I am interested in the details. Why does running "too fast" bring you to a peak? Why would running intervals "too long" do the same?
Could you run a low volume speed workout once a week... something like 6-10 X 200 at 400-800 pace with full recovery in January, and still peak in May/June?
Is this universal? Does this apply to adolescents?
339 is a good result. he just needs to stay healthy. hope that wheating is getting his 400 speed down to 47 flat rather than do a lot of tempo runs.i'd have wheating do a lot of work at 50 - 53 seconds per lap, whatever he can handle and recover well.hard 1 to 2 minute runs up hill.not a steady diet of 5 minute miles.he's an 800 guy that can stretch it to 1500.not a 5000 guy.
Training question wrote:
tips wrote:This is pretty basic stuff. Yes, you can do intervals year round. If your kids are genuinely peaking after 6 weeks, they're either running intervals too far, too fast, with too little rest, or some combination of these without a decent background of volume. Hitting a wide variety of training paces year round (ex-doing 10+ x100m strides at mile/800 pace 6 months before you plan on actually racing a mile) combined with a substantial amount of volume, some fast-ish, is what gets the best results. There's a wealth of knowledge on here for sorting out the details.
Right... But you aren't running a 1:45 for 800 off 10 X 100.
I am interested in the details. Why does running "too fast" bring you to a peak? Why would running intervals "too long" do the same?
Could you run a low volume speed workout once a week... something like 6-10 X 200 at 400-800 pace with full recovery in January, and still peak in May/June?
Is this universal? Does this apply to adolescents?
No Way wrote:It's hard to get excited about a pro performance that I've myself equaled.
It's hard to get excited about a post that your average high schooler would make.
Did you run that performance in your first indoor race in January?
You ass!!!
No Way wrote:
I have made less than $500 from running and have run 1500 that fast (actually it was a mile, and outside, but still).
It's hard to get excited about a pro performance that I've myself equaled.
No Way wrote:
Actually, I thought about it, and I think I've made $600.
Do you want a medal or something? A story in the local paper?
Tell me about the time you ran 3:30.9 after your senior year of college. THAT'S the guy we're talking about. THAT'S the guy people are excited about.
Oh man did you get told or what?!
Magic City Hippies wrote:
No Way wrote:I have made less than $500 from running and have run 1500 that fast (actually it was a mile, and outside, but still).
It's hard to get excited about a pro performance that I've myself equaled.
No Way wrote:
Actually, I thought about it, and I think I've made $600.
Do you want a medal or something? A story in the local paper?
Tell me about the time you ran 3:30.9 after your senior year of college. THAT'S the guy we're talking about. THAT'S the guy people are excited about.
No. We are talking about the 2016 man.
When was te last time he has run under 3:35?
Right.
Five years ago.
THAT's the reality we are talking about.
Tank you for adding to the LRC's base of a-holes.
Magic City Hippies wrote:
Tell me about the time you ran 3:30.9 after your senior year of college. THAT'S the guy we're talking about. THAT'S the guy people are excited about.
I would be incredibly excited for that. Unfortunately, that was a long time ago. Almost as long as it's been since I was on the track.
Who said they ran the mile in under 3.39 lol the world record is like 3.43 something what a liar that dude is full of something you take going number 2 in the bathroom lol
Reminds me of when he was back at Portland meet last Spring. He is a little too excited for a perfectly set-up race for him.
Larry Dickman wrote:
It's definitely better than most rust busters, that's for sure. Americans, though, tend to think someone is back when they run 3:38 - 3:40.
Keep in mind that an American high schooler ran 3:39 in 1964.
But I DO, indeed, hope he has a great season.
If you want to dispute this, call me at 919-867-5309. I'm around all day.
Serious callers only.
Are you down for some sexting? ; )
[quote]rojo wrote:
A strong showing for him this early in the year considering he hasn't broken 3:37 since 2012. '
and still hasn't.
Symmonds 3:34 this year? wrote:
Didn't Nick Symmonds run a 3:34 1500m indoors a month or so ago?
Maybe a 3:44 haha. His outdoor PR is 3:34 from 2013 when he was (in my opinion) in the shape of his life and was 2nd at Worlds. I doubt he's gonna be hitting a time like that indoors, granted that the world leader each year indoors is around 3:34 or 3:35 usually.
The thing about Wheating is that he has so much trouble running in traffic that running a sparsely-populated 3:39 is easier than a 3:41 in a full heat of sub-4 guys.
It would be awesome for him to get into Monaco again, because he is very uncomfortable in slower tactical races but can really open up his stride in a fast single-file race, as he did in 2010.