ALBERTO RELEASES STATEMENT

I knew it. 100% innocent.

Stop the witchhunt you washed up losers!

How many TUEs did Galen have before 2010?

well, there goes the rest of my work day. luckily it looks like a legal document so no one will question what i'm doing

salazar redacts so much from his emails -- the section on the emails back and forth with him and goucher are not even shown. The one one we get to see is:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0248/8471/files/Exhibit_25.pdf?10179272499514451932

I am too busy trying to read it all and jumping back and forth in this thread, but there has already been some pretty crappy and selective paraphrasing here people. The TUE question was answered vaguely at best. Alberto even points out that most times the TUE is granted for 3-5 days. That means the athlete has that 3-5 window where they are exempt from a positive test. Don't make it sound like they can cheat willingly. You get the TUE to use something that is prescribed for a medical condition but is normally illegal by WADA or USADA.

Also, that email quote from Amy Eicher does not tell the story. Alberto contacted her to see if Galen would be ok to run a race without the TUE because he was KNOWINGLY taking Prednisone for an asthma flare up. He wasn't asking her if she could advise him on how to cheat a test or something as seemed to be hinted by the quote on this thread.

Read the freakin' story people.

Nutella1 wrote:

Of 55 athletes only 5 have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism after I had started coaching them (9.1%).

Everyone else was diagnosed before he started coaching them?

Clearly that bold part is there on purpose.

9% of his elite athletes had a very rare physical condition. That suggests it would be more prevalent, but it's not. Huh. Seems legit.

Very entertaining stuff about Magness/Areson, Magness's inability to coach, and Adam Goucher. Make of it what you will, but Saladbar just dropped the mic.

runDirtyrun wrote:

Nutella1 wrote:

Everyone else was diagnosed before he started coaching them?

Clearly that bold part is there on purpose.

9% of his elite athletes had a very rare physical condition. That suggests it would be more prevalent, but it's not. Huh. Seems legit.

No.

More than 9% have this rare physical condition.

But most of them were already diagnosed before they joined NOP. At least that's how I read this.

Going through the second page now, and wow, he trashes the Gouchers (namely Adam) almost as badly as he trashes Magness

Isn't the other side of the coin so different to look at? Kara Goucher made it sound so differently than it appears to having been based on the facts provided by Alberto. Wow!

rojo wrote:

Here is the link:

http://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35522561-alberto-open-letter-part-1

Going to read it now.

NOP outage wrote:

Alberto even points out that most times the TUE is granted for 3-5 days.

We're trusting what Alberto says now? You know, he's been so honest and transparent for so long, of course we can rely on his statements.

TUEs are wide open for abuse. What he's not mentioning is TUE periods are not standardized and can be quite long.

For example, the prevalence of "asthma," real or not, as a TUE in elite endurance athletics means the TUE period will be quite long because, theoretically, once you have asthma, you can't be cured. Of course, mysteriously, many elite athletes ARE cured of their asthma after their elite-level careers are over.

The thing is - I can totally see Steve Magness and Adam Goucher behaving the way Salazar writes in his statement. Goucher having issues with his wife being the alpha-athlete and taking it out on Salazar. Magness not being extroverted or all that successful in his work.

So, looks like the BBC has egg on its face. Again. I await their desperate U-turn eagerly.

From another thread about jobs and college degrees....

"What is the going wage rate for an experienced Yack Herder?

How do you even go about applying for a position like that? Are there any benefits packages available?"

rojo wrote:

Here is the link:

http://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35522561-alberto-open-letter-part-1

Going to read it now.

It's a very well crafted statement. Will be interesting to see how Magness, Kara Goucher and Epstein reply.

One thing it DOESN'T address is the whole "I didn't really coach Mary Decker" thing. Guess Mo is good with whatever Salazar told him about that matter.

I hate to say it, but I think AlSal's statement is better reasoned and better documented than the Epstein article. That doesn't necessarily make it true, but it does put AlSal in a much stronger position than I expected it to.

Wherever the truth may lie, good for him for making a detailed statement at a time when the track community is paying close attention.

Nutella1 wrote:

runDirtyrun wrote:

9% of his elite athletes had a very rare physical condition. That suggests it would be more prevalent, but it's not. Huh. Seems legit.

No.

More than 9% have this rare physical condition.

But most of them were already diagnosed before they joined NOP. At least that's how I read this.

Ok, so EVEN MORE THAN 9% of his elite athletic population has a rare medical condition and somehow they all end up in Al Sal's program.

Seems legit.

Meanwhile wrote:

From another thread about jobs and college degrees....

"What is the going wage rate for an experienced Yack Herder?

How do you even go about applying for a position like that? Are there any benefits packages available?"

^This.

agip wrote:

it's just turned into a giant he said/she said that will not resolve itself probably ever.

Al Sal accuses everyone of lying - magness, goucher 1, goucher 2, others...why are all these people lying so much??!!!!

being sarcastic here - not likely that everyone has decided to lie about NOP. well we'll see.

You know why..... because they are bitter because they never made it and/or got dropped by Nike (e.g. Kara, Fleshman)

I don't see the Fleshmen comments addressed but it is a much stronger response then I expected. I think lots of people responding so far haven't read the response. Please read it before you reply.