Farah is a WIMP- refuses to push a 26:30 pace, runs 26:50

Watch the 1996 Olympics. Watch any race he competed against Tergat. It got so bad in regards to Geb refusing to lead that Tergat started refusing to be in a race with him.

Who wants to race someone like that?

official lea wrote:

This officially ends Farah's shot at GOAT status. Do you feel better now?

Oddly enough, no. No I don't. But I do appreciate the effort. Thanks!

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

This basically ends Farah's shot at GOAT status. Unlike Geb and Bekele, he is unwilling to push a fast pace. Looks like all this guy can do is sit and kick. Not an all time great if he can't even run a fast time.

Geb had the most longevity. Bekele was DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running. How can you even argue? He was a pace pusher and has multiple world records (cough cough 5k/10k cough cough). And both of his WR has crappy pacing.

Kenenisa Barkele wrote:

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

This basically ends Farah's shot at GOAT status. Unlike Geb and Bekele, he is unwilling to push a fast pace. Looks like all this guy can do is sit and kick. Not an all time great if he can't even run a fast time.

Geb had the most longevity. Bekele was DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running. How can you even argue? He was a pace pusher and has multiple world records (cough cough 5k/10k cough cough). And both of his WR has crappy pacing.

No, Bekele was not "DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running", regardless how bold you want to write it. Yes, he has a strong claim for this "title", but Gebrselassie's claim is even stronger, for example because of his better PBs.

said88 wrote:

Kenenisa Barkele wrote:

Geb had the most longevity. Bekele was DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running. How can you even argue? He was a pace pusher and has multiple world records (cough cough 5k/10k cough cough). And both of his WR has crappy pacing.

No, Bekele was not "DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running", regardless how bold you want to write it. Yes, he has a strong claim for this "title", but Gebrselassie's claim is even stronger, for example because of his better PBs.

Because of his better PB's? Usually the world record holder has the best PB at that distance, unless I am mistaken

"Was he too pissed/whiney to do his "mobot"? "

-no, but he did that thing where he slaps himself in the head at the end. seriously, wtf IS that?

peekay wrote:

Because of his better PB's? Usually the world record holder has the best PB at that distance, unless I am mistaken

I'm talking about the combination of all there PBs from 1500m to Marathon.

said88 wrote:

I'm talking about the combination of all there PBs from 1500m to Marathon.

Bekele matches this by his unreal dominance in xc. Dominated BOTH races for years.

said88 wrote:

[quote]Kenenisa Barkele wrote:

No, Bekele was not "DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running", regardless how bold you want to write it. Yes, he has a strong claim for this "title", but Gebrselassie's claim is even stronger, for example because of his better PBs.

This takes the nod for the stupidest post ever.

Idiot Alert wrote:

said88 wrote:

[quote]Kenenisa Barkele wrote:

No, Bekele was not "DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running", regardless how bold you want to write it. Yes, he has a strong claim for this "title", but Gebrselassie's claim is even stronger, for example because of his better PBs.

This takes the nod for the stupidest post ever.

You are free to think whatever you want, but how can writing correct things be that stupid as you might think?

Is it possible that your real name is Albert und you just forgot a "b" in your nick?

Idiot Alert wrote:

said88 wrote:

[quote]Kenenisa Barkele wrote:

No, Bekele was not "DEFINITELY the GOAT of distance running", regardless how bold you want to write it. Yes, he has a strong claim for this "title", but Gebrselassie's claim is even stronger, for example because of his better PBs.

This takes the nod for the stupidest post ever.

I agree.

Kennster is the definite GOAT. His PRs are still untouchable whereas that Haile guy has none left (except a couple of ridiculous ones).

And btw, any post from someone who uses the handle inspired by a serial doper should have been removed by the junk filter.

The Donger wrote:

Watch the 1996 Olympics. Watch any race he competed against Tergat. It got so bad in regards to Geb refusing to lead that Tergat started refusing to be in a race with him.

Who wants to race someone like that?

This idea that a runner who's trying to win a race ....ought to take the lead to help his competitors is just plain DUMB!

It is ironic of Farah to complain about no one else pushing the pace.

What goes around comes around.

wtfunny wrote:

Yes, Geb went after it when he wanted a WR. Otherwise, he sat on someone's shoulder, let them do the work, then blew by them for a the win. Unless they took off and left him behind, in which case he threw in the towel and walked to the finish. :)

Which happened.... wrote:

Once, when Komen ran him out and broke the WR.

said88 wrote:

This has never happened.

Not a WR but close.

WR a year later

kikKomen Soi sauce wrote:

This basically ends Farah's shot at GOAT status. Unlike Geb and Bekele, he is unwilling to push a fast pace. Looks like all this guy can do is sit and kick. Not an all time great if he can't even run a fast time.

Yo soi sauce: it's easy for anonymous internet critics to throw out absurdist verbiage...shall we talk about your PR's? Yeah, Farah has annoying drawbacks...#1: He's got a delusionary jingoistic British press behind him, a pack of journalists who don't give a flip about track, but who want to amp a rule Britannia vibe at all costs. They ignore the accomplishment of Farah's rivals--when Bekele put on a clinic of tactical running to beat Farah at the Bupa half marathon in 2013, they blamed the narrowness of the finish area!#2 The other annoying thing about Farah is his theatrics...The recent Doha 3k video is so sweet to watch because Gebrehiwet is so cool and subdued at the starting line, whereas Farah is mugging like an Disney cartoon character. But having said that, I have to say that I am impressed and respect Farah's effort in the Pre10k. Not only did he drop his sit and kick tactics, Farah pushed and pushed with Tanui as Kamworor just sat off the back and waited...it would've been easier for Farah to sit and kick, but he took on work and risk at the front and was still able to outkick his rivals in a impressive performance. To say that his effort "ends" his shot at GOAT status is sort of obvious already, given the huge disparity between Farah's 10k PR (26:48?) and Bekele's (26:19). Even so, I am impressed with Farah's run last Friday night.

neutral runner expert wrote:

Idiot Alert wrote:

This takes the nod for the stupidest post ever.

I agree.

Kennster is the definite GOAT. His PRs are still untouchable whereas that Haile guy has none left (except a couple of ridiculous ones).

And btw, any post from someone who uses the handle inspired by a serial doper should have been removed by the junk filter.

Yeah, genious. "That Haile guy" just has ridiculous PBs like 2:03:59 (first persun under 2:04) or 3:31.76 (still 2nd fastest all-time indoors). Ridiculous times, that's for sure. You can equal this easily.

To your 2nd - even more stupid - comment: "serial doper"? Who are you talking about? I'm using this name for well over 10 years. If you think the person (you think) behind this name was a doper, than that's OK.

Don't decide by the name, decide by the (true) comment I have done. But I have little hope you can understand something like this.

In an international stage, nobody cares about Prefontaine. We don't even recognize his picture.

*shrug*

Well, it certainly DID happen in Zurich in 96. Komen didn't broke the WR at that time, no, but Geb sure did throw win the towel and embarrass himself by jogging home.But yes, you're right in 95, Geb went after it in a stacked race. One time. But he didn't get after it when he a group of athletes going with him. Anytime anyone went with him, he ducked back behind them and sat on their shoulder. Just as I said above.Geb has a phenomenal record, I don't know why you bring that up. No one questioned it. That doesn't contradict, at all, what I said above.I disagree that his WR's were set with no real competition from him because of his unique class. He had plenty of opportunity in Zurich to get after a WR in 96 and 97, yet he didn't take the lead once. Not once (until he kicked past Komen in 97 with 200m to go). That's a good example of exactly what I said earlier.He was a phenomenal runner, but he didn't go out and run from the front when he had Komen and Tergat in the 5000m or 10 000m when they were at the top of their game (Komen was a 19 year old kid in 95), nowhere near the athlete he was in 97 and 97 and early 98.I can't think of a single race where Geb ran like Farah did on Friday night, alternating taking the lead, and doing the work in a field of very evenly matched athlete.sCorrect, Farah is not as good as Geb or Bekele from 3000m ->. Nobody really claimed, or tried to claim, he is.

2 of the 3 pacers dropped out after 5 mins - whats the point in that?! And they were blowing then! Im fed up of athletes not going with pacers but when decent pacers are not provided athletes complain.