In my state only 23 have gone under 10
In my state only 23 have gone under 10
Why do lame posters seek out defenseless youth to gain satisfaction from their persecution? Try contributing something positive in your life or in other people's lives for once. Most people grow out of that by 3rd grade. To respond to the initial inquiry; I'm in a building of over 2000 students. Most are not athletes and hate running because they would rather sit around eating Cheetos while playing their video games. Even if a kid didn't break 10 but was active is still more impressive than most of his classmates.
question789 wrote:
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no one in my state thought that. i broke 10 as a freshman.
If you live in an area where most races are held at altitudes of greater than 4000ft, 10:00 is a pretty respectable time for a high school boy. It's not bad even for sea level. Very few boys are talented enough to run that fast without significant training. I knew quite a few guys who were dedicated, trained hard, and still barely cracked 5:00 for 1600m. 10:00 for 3200m is respectable.
It was like that for quite a while in the 90's. However, lately, many high school boy distance runners are regularly running under 9:30.
I really think that last year, this year and the next three years will produce some of the best distance runners from our high schools in the last 35 years.
Look at the little state of Connecticut. They had 4 of the country's top HS milers, and three of the top HS XC runners.
If this is true, then this country can improve and grow in the XC sport and thereby the long distance running will grow
it's impressive to a non-HS boy because its an indication of talent
it's impressive to a HS boy because it puts them in the 1%
Did someone actually type that 3200 in under 11:00 was impressive?
I am one of the very oldest people here and even back in my day, we did not think that. Not even close.
Maybe that person is slow....a 20 minute 5K guy who dreams of breaking 11:00 someday. Not everybody has typical letsrun talent (sub-4:00 mile, sub-14:00 5K).
because they have yet to realize how much of it is because they are skinny teenagers.
When they get older, if they gain weight, they will find they can't run sub 10 anymore, but they won't care because they will no longer consider being skinny an impressive thing.
slowmanrealist wrote:
Breaking 11 for 3200m is impressive
Breaking 10 for 3200m is good
Breaking 9 for 3200m is epic
Breaking 8 for 3200m is mind-blowing
Breaking 7 for 3200m is otherworldly
wejo wrote:
Because it is an impressive accomplishment.
I remember the first time I did it. 9:53.
It was a time trial at night and I had a pacer. It seemed so, so hard. I was really in pain.
A few weeks later I ran 9:35 in a race and it felt easier but the 9:53 I'll never forget.
Similar for me. I had a PR of 10:03 and finally got under 10:00 with a 9:51. No pacer though...just a good runner from another team whom I had never beaten before...he was having an off day for him, but I wanted to beat him. When the race was over he said to me, "There's a first and a last time for everything." Well, he was right. He was a senior and I was a junior and we only raced each other one more time, and he beat me.
Anyway, that was a huge milestone for me, and I also will never forget it.
question789 wrote:
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Depends on your perspective I guess. I went to 2 high schools, and the first one was a AA school (now called Division 2 in Ohio), and I remember as a freshman running a 10:51 in a Saturday meet. I got 4th. The winner ran 10:11, and I remember thinking that was super fast. They gave us medals on the podium, and I remember thinking how great that kid was and how I didn't deserve to be on the same podium with him. That all changed for me when I went to the bigger AAA (now Division 1 in Ohio) high school and most of the time at least one would break 10:00 in an invitational.
10:02 qualified for the indoor state meet in Maryland this season. It's a goal to shoot for. It is impressive and it means you have put in some solid work to achieve that goal.
casey149 wrote:
7:53 wins state? Do they race against 8th graders that pitiful for a high school state meet.
You guys from the best running states have it skewed. I just checked last year's Dyestat 4x800 list, and sub-7:53's were only run in 20 states last year (based on meet location).
7:53-flat is 120th on the performance list, the same level as a 1:53-flat 800.
In some states both of those times would get smashed, but in the majority of states, those are state-champion caliber times.
All depends on the context. To the general population jogging their 5k races, it is impressive. Compared to the finest high school runners, or to people like the OP that are not able to understand things in different contexts and get their jollies off insulting hard-working high school kids, then it isn't impressive.
question789 wrote:
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curious as to what sort of asshat d-bag loser OP is to post this. What - now that you've finally cracked 9:30, all the guys running 9:59 suck?
Roy D. Mercer wrote:
question789 wrote:Discuss
curious as to what sort of asshat d-bag loser OP is to post this. What - now that you've finally cracked 9:30, all the guys running 9:59 suck?
10:00 doesn't suck - I wasn't able to run that fast in hs. But last spring nearly 800 high schoolers broke 9:30. Nearly 4200 broke 10 (maybe more, that's the number listed on milestat. That's an average of 80 per state. I don't know how many kids ran the 3200 last year, but I'd guess that breaking 10 is probably top 10%.
So, I don't know... I would say that breaking 10 requires both talent and work, probably hard work, unless you're outrageously talented. It's not something that most people, even runners could possibly do, and it's fast enough that you can get some attention from decent DII or NAIA programs.
Running 10:40 will get you top 5 in our 1a.
I still remember the first time I broke 10. It was my big goal my sophomore year of high school and I did it halfway through outdoor. I ended up running much faster by the end of high school and now I've run almost that pace for the 8k XC (25:04) but man, I was so pumped after I broke 10. 9:5x sounded so much better than 10:0x.
My school record was exactly 10:00 for two mile. My junior year at our Invitational I not only broke 10 for the first time but set the school record and won the race. I ran 9:55. That school record lasted another 20 years. I never ran as fast again as I finished the year running the mile and my senior year I had bronchitis.