Definition of "anaerobic capacity session"?

Skuj wrote:

Are you my troll? I'll trial you a couple more replies here.

That book is exactly where this came from. Most of Coe's sessions at 800-1500 pace were of the short recovery variety.

4x400m in 52 with 60sec rest.

15x200m in 28 with 30sec rest.

6x300m in sub 40 with 45 sec rest.

What do YOU call those sessions which fall into the Coe chapter on Anaerobic Capacity?

He certainly didn´t do any of those sessions in the training leading up to the 1984 Olympics (something which is also described in the book).

You shouldn't be racing with a 'heavy oxygen debt' you don't see the top runners doing that do you? Not at any distance.

What is Anaerobic capacity?

There really is no such thing. There are several anaerobic ATP synthesising systems all at work at the same time.

Some people talk about maximum lactate production as being 'anaerobic capacity' but that is only because they think they can measure it with a lactate meter.

Anyway, as others have said, we shouldn't worry about such terminology, but concentrate on good speed work and speed endurance.

There was a story on the front page last week about brother Brother Colm O'Connell who coaches David Rudisha, now there is a coach who knows what he's doing.

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/coaching-philosophy-david-rudisha-colm-oconnell-11583/

He explains how it's not about pain tolerance, but good smooth running action.

well,. wrote:

Skuj wrote:

Are you my troll? I'll trial you a couple more replies here.

That book is exactly where this came from. Most of Coe's sessions at 800-1500 pace were of the short recovery variety.

4x400m in 52 with 60sec rest.

15x200m in 28 with 30sec rest.

6x300m in sub 40 with 45 sec rest.

What do YOU call those sessions which fall into the Coe chapter on Anaerobic Capacity?

He certainly didn´t do any of those sessions in the training leading up to the 1984 Olympics (something which is also described in the book).

Really? I'm looking at the book right now where his last weeks to LA are detailed. Let's look at it together, shall we?

mark b wrote:

Isn't it all about training the body to run at race pace - and do things like accelerate, jockey for position etc. - when you are in heavy oxygen debt? Repetitions at 800/1500 pace with short recovery - ie much less than complete recovery is the way to go. As Harry Wilson, Steve Ovett's coach, explained 4x2x400 fast with 30 sec between runs and longer between sets was a better session for an experienced runner than the standard 8x400 with 60-90 sec rest. Unless the run is quite long, eg at least 500m at 800 pace, having complete recovery will not prepare the body for the demands of racing/coping with a large oxygen debt

Great post Marcus!!! (How are you?)

Now how about when training for the 5k/10k. These types of races aren't typically about dealing with lots of lactic. Should there be less emphasis on mile pace w/ short recoveries? Should there be more emphasis? What are the benefits of short recovery mile pace workouts and full recovery mile pace workouts for this type of runner?

Skuj wrote:

mark b wrote:

Isn't it all about training the body to run at race pace - and do things like accelerate, jockey for position etc. - when you are in heavy oxygen debt? Repetitions at 800/1500 pace with short recovery - ie much less than complete recovery is the way to go. As Harry Wilson, Steve Ovett's coach, explained 4x2x400 fast with 30 sec between runs and longer between sets was a better session for an experienced runner than the standard 8x400 with 60-90 sec rest. Unless the run is quite long, eg at least 500m at 800 pace, having complete recovery will not prepare the body for the demands of racing/coping with a large oxygen debt

Great post Marcus!!! (How are you?)

I'm sorry? Who is Marcus?

Skuj wrote:

Reading is FUNdamental wrote:

I'm sorry, but did you even read the replies? It was clearly explained that the type of session you desire requires COMPLETE recovery.

WTF are you talking about? 100s with long recovery is definitely NOT ancap.

I wrote "COMPLETE" recovery, not "long" recovery. Reading is truly FUNdamental, my friend.

I thought it was Mark Bomba. I was wrong.

Skuj, Anaerobic = sprinting. When distance runners talk about 'Anaerobic training' they are misinformed about what is aerobic and what is anaerobic.

So called 'oxygen debt' training is not anaerobic.