Let's compare Rupp and Jager on number of international medals.
Let's compare Rupp and Jager on number of international medals.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Ole Boy There wrote:Salazar's Great White Hope (Rupp) is better than Jerry's Great White Hope (Jager)
Is he? Maybe historically.
Jager out-did Rupp this season, easily.
Heaps of great DL finishes and a strong AR for Jager vs heaps of mediocre DL finishes and a weak AR for Rupp.
Steeple
WR - 7:53
Jager - 8:04 (+11s)
5,000
WR - 12:37
Rupp 2014 - 13:00 (+23s)
10,000
WR - 26:17
Rupp 2014 - 26:44 (+27s)
Not even close.
How close is Rupp in the indoor 3k or 2 mile? 5 and 3 seconds?
Also I know you have an IQ of 70, but use a calculator. 11.08 seconds is equivalent to being ~36 seconds off the 10k, it's not even close moron.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Ole Boy There wrote:Salazar's Great White Hope (Rupp) is better than Jerry's Great White Hope (Jager)
Is he? Maybe historically.
Jager out-did Rupp this season, easily.
Heaps of great DL finishes and a strong AR for Jager vs heaps of mediocre DL finishes and a weak AR for Rupp.
Steeple
WR - 7:53
Jager - 8:04 (+11s)
5,000
WR - 12:37
Rupp 2014 - 13:00 (+23s)
10,000
WR - 26:17
Rupp 2014 - 26:44 (+27s)
Not even close.
Go back to your cave troll, you're drunk
You dopes do realize it was pushing 100 degrees when Bumbalough raced yesterday, right? He clearly was hurting from that. The dude from Chile dropped out for the same reason.
I am not American and I am not embarrassed either.
We should compare Rupp and Jager appropriately by comparing their careers when they were the same age. Jager is 25 this year, what did Rupp (28) do three years ago?
Katie stunk it up today too. Why are the American 5k runners laying down times that D3 runners can top?
coach comments nicely wrote:
We should compare Rupp and Jager appropriately by comparing their careers when they were the same age. Jager is 25 this year, what did Rupp (28) do three years ago?
I have no idea why people suggest this. I suppose the basic idea is that if Jager at 25 is better than Rupp was at 25, then by extrapolation, Jager should be the more talented or accomplished athlete in the future.
This actually makes VERY little sense when you think about it. For instance, if you took Bernard Lagat or Mo Farah and compared them to ANY normal athlete at say, age 25, they would almost always come out "inferior". Lagat wasn't even out of college yet (where he only managed 2 indoor titles and one outdoor title), and Farah was more or less a mediocre pro.
Compare them to say, Webb, Jager, and Solinsky, and you would expect that all the Americans would be complete world-beaters by the time they're in their 30s, but we all know that's not the case. Webb's career died a terrible death in his mid-late 20s, Solinsky's career is nearly dead even before he is 30, and it's highly unlikely that Jager will ever end up with either Lagat or Farah's international success.
You don't compare accomplishments "at the same age", because athletes rarely reach their athletic prime at the exact same time. Again, take Webb as an example. He reached the peak of his athletic abilities VERY early on, while Rupp, Farah, Solinsky, etc. all reached it much later.
fasfadsfads wrote:
Katie stunk it up today too. Why are the American 5k runners laying down times that D3 runners can top?
Katie is really sick. Puking, etc, the whole deal. Wasn't able to attend any of the team stuff.
tow. wrote:
Schumacher and Bumbalough completely embarrass the USA at the Continental Cup,
http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-continental-cup/iaaf-continental-cup-2014-4953/news/report/men/5000-metres/final
Tow.
What do you know about Bumbi and the Schu-mister?
Did you room with Bumbi at USAs????
No, didn't think so.
Unless you plan to come stepping hard, bro. I best you back off the weed some.
Fcking haters.
Seyta wrote:
Come on, you can do better than that can't you?
If you're going to bash Rupp and try to support Jager, the LAST thing you want to do is call Rupp's event "weak", since Jager effectively runs in the weakest track event that exists. Of COURSE he can finish decently in it. The depth is terrible, and nobody wants to run in it. It's like comparing the ITU Triathlon Circuit with the Marathon.
Moreover, why are you trying to use absolute time differences from the world record as a measure of adeptness in an event? Since the 3000m Steeplechase WR is less than a third of the actual time for the 10000m WR, the allowable difference should scale appropriately. Even if we're lenient with Jager and simply triple the time by which he is off of the WR, he ends up with +33 seconds, which is quite a bit more than Rupp.
You're a decent troll in many Rupp-Related threads, but this definitely isn't among your better works.
The success of a troll is getting people to respond. You responded with a two paragraph logical rebuttal. He's an excellent troll. :)
Obviously, the heat broke him badly. I am not sure he embarrassed the US, but he certainly did not impress anyone. His racing in 2014 has been pretty tepid. On good 5k and not much else. With 20/20 hindsight, the whole kicking the 5k in Rupp/no handshake affair looks pretty bad for Bumbi given the opposite directions the careers of Rupp and Bumbi have gone.
Not sure about the team points..but he jogged it in for 7th place and won $2000 for it. 8th place would have gotten $1000 just to finish.
I assume the team points have awards as well.
The heat got to him. It was in the high 80s in Marrakech. Didn't bother Robertson, though.
Precious Roy wrote:
the whole kicking the 5k in Rupp/no handshake affair looks pretty bad for Bumbi given the opposite directions the careers of Rupp and Bumbi have gone.
Huh?
How the hell did he end up over a minute back!?
Mercy Cherono failed to break 16 at the African champs. The heat of Marrakesh claimed a lot of scalps this year.
I have a better personal best than bumbo in that race and I suck
typo??? wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:the whole kicking the 5k in Rupp/no handshake affair looks pretty bad for Bumbi given the opposite directions the careers of Rupp and Bumbi have gone.
Huh?
Poster is referring to an old event that was discussed a bit on these boards at either the rounds of the 2012 USOT or the rounds at the Olys, in which, in a qualifying race, Bumbi made a point to kick (race) and lean to get a trivial "place"/"race win" over Rupp.
Personally, I think that's not all that relevant. At the time, you could look at it both ways but as far as I can see (from races watched in video, interviews and from seeing him in the flesh in person) Bumbi is a decent guy and likely one of the nicest guys in the Schu group.
So some haters prob then have some foggy glasses on and view this angrily when the benefit of the doubt should be considered. But, I can perhaps understand their viewpoint--representing the U.S., maybe possible that once heat exhausted and off the pace, he reduced pace more and just tried to finish but not wear himself out; maybe in that event he should have saved face and registered a better time? Did he do as best as he could? Is finishing slow better than DNF? So it's kinda hard to make judgments about these things.
I say, give the guy a break, get excited about upcoming races and hold the talk until the next big stage international events come up.
Fixed the thread title.