dgg wrote:
I wouldn't bet on any of them - it doesn't really seem like they are ready but other people are so watch out for the other people that might be in the chase for the top spot.
I agree with RoJo that those are the top 4 going into the race - who do you see as the top 2 or 3 not mentioned in that top group?
dgg wrote:
I wouldn't bet on any of them - it doesn't really seem like they are ready but other people are so watch out for the other people that might be in the chase for the top spot.
I agree with RoJo that those are the top 4 going into the race - who do you see as the top 2 or 3 not mentioned in that top group?
15:18/15:08 wrote:
Jordan Hasay is a real cutie pie. My prediction is 30:26.
2nd place.
I know you're being tongue in cheek but this highlights the general attitude about Hasay here: She's young, cute and likable, therefore she deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as runners who are not just somewhat better than she is, but on another planet.
Shalane may never see 30:21 again, but she proved at both Boston and the Bolder Boulder that she can run under 31:00 if she needs to. Meanwhile, Hasay's recent 5K PR would barely give her 31-flat for 10K if she did the unthinkable and ran back-toback 5K bests.
Maybe it's the fact that 88.9 percent of the regulars here are male, but seriously, asking whether Hasay has any shot against a healthy and fit Shalane is like asking whether someone like Aaron Braun can take down Rupp, when the real question is whether JH will get lapped. And if Shalane does run under 31:00, she will fail to lap at most three runners and Hasay will not be among the escapees.
AS gets excited by a 57 400 from Jordan?? That's decent...for a 4:40/16:15/33:30 runner. It should be sobering for anyone at Jordan's level.
She is a marathoner by potential. Even her recent 5K PR is a slow 10K split for Shalane.
flanagan out of USAs:
Shalane Flanagan
2 mins ·
Super bummed to not be racing USA track nats. Healthy and excited to start fall marathon training! BIG goal......sub 2:20 requires work!
Women's 10k is wide open!
Flanagan: "Super bummed to not be racing USA track nats. Healthy and excited to start fall marathon training!"
Does anyone think she'll ever run a sub-2:20?
With Flanagan pulling out, I would predict Hasay as the frontrunner followed by Conley. Any predictions now that the situation has changed?
Conley for the win, Hasay close second.
Hasay for the win, Connelly a far distant.
Hasay in the lead until the final lap, then gets outkicked by Conley or whoever else is close.
Hasay will win.
It looks like Hasay is only running the 5k.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_track_field_rundown_fri_11.html
So, with her and Flanagan out, the race is likely between Conley, Ward, and Hastings, with several other women with a shot at contending. Should still be interesting!
Hasay is declared for the 10000m today, so doesn't she have to run it if she's going to do the 5000m tomorrow?
I think the Oregon Live piece has a typo, because according to Hasay, both yesterday and three hours ago, she is running the 10,000: https://twitter.com/JordanHasay
I believe she's planning to double. [The Oregon Live piece didn't say anything about her not running the 10000m, it just said she was running the 5000m.] The relevant quote:
"Salazar said that Jordan Hasay's winning 1,500/5,000 double at the Portland Track Festival on Sunday, was an indication that form changes she is making are helping with the way she finishes races. He said Hasay will run the 5,000 in Sacramento."
Or, yes, it could be a typo and the plan could be for her to run the 10000m and scratch the 5000m. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Skeptic/Sceptic wrote:
I think the Oregon Live piece has a typo, because according to Hasay, both yesterday and three hours ago, she is running the 10,000:
https://twitter.com/JordanHasay
Great. This makes the 10,000 more interesting.
dkny64 wrote:
Big Fan wrote:I concur Shalane wins easily. Hasay fights not to get lapped.
Agreed that Shalane wins easily. I expect Hasay to be in the chase pack, so if Hasay gets lapped, I think it means the entire field gets lapped.
Salazar seems to like having Hasay push from about 600m out, but I'm curious to see what would happen if Hasay tried sitting in the chase pack to 200m out, then going full speed. [I continue to be intrigued by that 57 second 400m she talked about running in practice - I think it would be cool to see her try to use that top gear in a race.]
Maybe the day will come when Hasay has the strength to push from 600m out AND hit top speed over the last 200m, but I don't think she's there yet.
Anyway, should be an interesting race for 2nd.
Hasay used exactly the strategy I hoped she would, and I thought she did a nice job of shifting gears and getting to top speed quickly, but then it looked to me like she couldn't hold top speed. Her last 200m to be about 33 seconds, so either she never got to top speed or she faded pretty quickly after she got there. Either way, I see this as progress, particularly when you factor in the 2nd 5k of the race being about 1% off of her 5k PR.
Next race - kick from 100m out?
dkny64 wrote:
dkny64 wrote:Agreed that Shalane wins easily. I expect Hasay to be in the chase pack, so if Hasay gets lapped, I think it means the entire field gets lapped.
Salazar seems to like having Hasay push from about 600m out, but I'm curious to see what would happen if Hasay tried sitting in the chase pack to 200m out, then going full speed. [I continue to be intrigued by that 57 second 400m she talked about running in practice - I think it would be cool to see her try to use that top gear in a race.]
Maybe the day will come when Hasay has the strength to push from 600m out AND hit top speed over the last 200m, but I don't think she's there yet.
Anyway, should be an interesting race for 2nd.
Hasay used exactly the strategy I hoped she would, and I thought she did a nice job of shifting gears and getting to top speed quickly, but then it looked to me like she couldn't hold top speed. Her last 200m to be about 33 seconds, so either she never got to top speed or she faded pretty quickly after she got there. Either way, I see this as progress, particularly when you factor in the 2nd 5k of the race being about 1% off of her 5k PR.
Next race - kick from 100m out?
Agreed. I thought Hasay looked strong for someone so young in by far the more interesting of the two 10,000M races last night.
Can't wait to see her in the 5.