Masters Track wrote:
Mrr82 wrote:Everything you just said is ridiculously wrong and made up. Bolt hits around 28mph at his best ever form. Ramos did 30.6km/hr
Correct.
Bolt, Gay, and Blake have hit splits of 0.80-0.81 seconds for 10 meters, which is 45 km/h. Normalizing for a 9.6 100m, the soccer guy has ~11.6 potential. But if he really "sprinted" 60 meters from a running start as slow as 8 seconds, it's more like 13 seconds.
Yet another case of a wannabe wishing he was actually fast.
Durtch World Cup Run wrote:
Dutch article translates to:
Robben fastest footballer ever
Our Telesport Editors
Arjen Robben yesterday was one of the stars on the field at Orange, with two important goals against Spain. But with his second goal, he also set a speed record down.
With its course of action, taking on foolproof way he left Sergio Ramos behind him, he pulled out a top speed of 37 kilometers per hour. In comparison Ramos took "only" 30.6 miles per hour. Converted Robben had run the 100 meters in a time of 10.28 seconds.
The old record was 35.7 miles per hour Arsenal striker Theo Walcott. Robben broke his own top speed of 30.6 kilometers per hour, as a right winger for Bayern Munich, spacious. The top 10 was compiled by FIFA and includes only players from European competition.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/oranje/22740872/__Robben_snelste_voetballer_ooit__.html
FIFA reports the top speed and various stats of each players for each World cup match, and according to the Spain-Netherlands match report (down there, page 11) Robben sprinted 31.03 km/h and not 37 km/h.
http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/tournament/competition/02/37/04/01/eng_03_0613_esp-ned_ned_playerstatistics_neutral.pdfThere is no doubt that he's very fast but I'd like to know from where do this figure come from ?? Not from FIFA it looks ?
162430 wrote:
Wow..... wrote:Are you brain dead and bad at math? 22.9mph top speed. Bolt 27.79mph...he'd need to go 22% faster to match....so your eyes are broken.
Put him on a track with spikes I'm sure he'll do a hell of a lot better, but this is not a 10.28 effort with a start, without a start sure. Big difference.
Assuming he has as good maintaining speed and start as pros (which he doesmt) worth about a 11.7. So given that he doesn't more like a 12.2. Put him on a track with spikes....maybe 11.6.
Aka very slow compared to pros.
This site never fails to amaze me when it comes to sprint times. This board has absolutely NO CONCEPT of what people can run for 100m. Robben at 12.2? Wow… I can run 12.0 and am primarily a half-marathoner (and a poor one at that). Robben would wipe the floor with me in a 100m dash. 12.0 doesn't even get you onto an average HS 400m relay team. Idiots.
He said 11.6 with spikes on genius. And no you can't run a 12.0 FAT. You may in your dreams, but you can't in reality.
Where does it come from ?? wrote:
There is no doubt that he's very fast but I'd like to know from where do this figure come from ?? Not from FIFA it looks ?
It comes from genetics. The fix may be in by FIFA on matches and World Cup draws, but they can't fix the results of genetics (although they probably try).
Another classic thread putting down other sports athletes speed. You know why they won't ever run a 100m on the track? Because they make a sh*t ton of money playing a sport people actually care about and don't want to get hurt and honestly don't want to waste their time.
might be wejo wrote:
I also saw a TV show where Shaq takes on Tyson Gay. The race is close, and I don't think Shaq is even the fastest guy in the NBA. These sprinters really aren't that fast.
If you actually watched that show you would have realized that Tyson Gay ran at least twice the distance as Shaq.
Robben had also completed numerous lung bursting sprints prior to said record. Sprinters are totally fresh before their efforts. Always a bit of pointless speculation but with training and fresh he would be impressive
Dennis Reynolds 2.0 wrote:
Another classic thread putting down other sports athletes speed. You know why they won't ever run a 100m on the track? Because they make a sh*t ton of money playing a sport people actually care about and don't want to get hurt and honestly don't want to waste their time.
Setting someone straight isn't the same as putting down their speed. The truth is the truth. 22.9mph top speed does not equal a 10.28 by a long shot. That's not putting him down it's just reality. You're pathetic, you can't even grasp simple concepts.
I think it's either mistranslated or miscalculated. 37kph is 10.28 m/s, which maintained for 100m is 9.72. Obviously, he's not considering acceleration, and he isn't in optimal sprint conditions.
Theo Walcott was actually clocked for a 10.30 100m, officially I believe.
Guys, lets consider a couple of things.
1. Robben played 80 minutes before this sprint
2. He is not starting on a track with blocks or wearing spikes
3. Every sprint time you compare it with are one-shot, best-ever sprints from athletes who were completely prepared for that ONE sprint
These football players do NOT train for a 100m dash in a straight line. These guys need to be agile, and are most probably much more competitive to track athletes when compared on a 40 or 60m dash.
The same argument obviously holds for 100m athletes such as Bolt or Gay. If they would train for a 40/60 they would adopt different tactics.
I do think it is safe to state that Robben is very fast, and would be a very decent track athlete if he would choose to focus his efforts. He would probably fair better in athletics thansay a Bolt or Gay would fair at playing professional football.
Too many variables to consider:
- the sprint was not 100m, more like 40m total.
- Flying start
- how long could he have hold the top speed
- he ran it on grass
- no spikes, but soccer cleats
- he had to touch the ball a couple of times, adjust stride to hit it at the right second
- he was already tired at that point
It was a fast sprint, no doubt. But we shouldn't draw any conclusions from this.
If you think Robben is fast, wait until you see Ahmed Musa of Nigeria today. He does not have anywhere near the skill of Robben but boy can he motor.
Theo Walcott of Arsenal was actually timed at 10.6 for the 100m when he was 18 but I think Ahmed Musa is faster.
Ronaldo is estimated to have run 96 meters in 10 seconds with a flying start.
Randy Oldman wrote:
Ronaldo is estimated to have run 96 meters in 10 seconds with a flying start.
Amazing, if true. Still, Bolt could run 96m in 9.00 with a flying start.
Nutella1 wrote:
Randy Oldman wrote:Ronaldo is estimated to have run 96 meters in 10 seconds with a flying start.
Amazing, if true. Still, Bolt could run 96m in 9.00 with a flying start.
I have yet to see a post from you that isn't dumb. First of all, 96m in 10 seconds with a flying start is worth about a 12.0 100m out of blocks, assuming he knew how to start from blocks and had good reaction time. Not amazing at all, but bonus for doing it on grass I guess.
Bolt would be around or just under 8.00 for a flying "96m."
Durtch World Cup Run wrote:
The old record was 35.7 miles per hour Arsenal striker Theo Walcott.
If he did 35.7 miles per hour, it would stand as the greatest ever by far.
Really? You honestly think there's no footballer out there faster than 10.4?
Heck - I found a kid on the HARVARD (!) soccer team who's run 10.5 -- surely someone, somewhere playing football today can certainly run faster than 10.4 if a Harvard kid can run 10.5
http://www.directathletics.com/athletes/track/3786473.html
http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/msoc/2014-15/bios/mccarthy_connor_77zl
You know what is funny ? Arjen Robben has been playing for Bayern Munich since 2009, one of the top club in Europe. The club\'s team doctor is Hans-Wilhelm Müller-Wohlfahrt. I\'m pretty sure that you have already heard this name before.He\'s the man who is widely credited to have \"fixed\" the scoliosis problems of a very famous jamaican sprinter. This same jamaican flies to Germany to see him each time he has a problem.There is an ongoing feud between this doctor and the French Football Federation, because the best french player Franck Ribery was ruled out of the tournament as he didn\'t want to get injections from a french doctor even though he gets plenty from BM medical staff. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/06/15/ribery-denies-being-scared-injections
France\'s star winger Franck Ribery says he refused a cortisone injection that French experts claim could have saved his 2014 FIFA World Cup place because he believed it was bad for him.
Le Gall said on Thursday that Ribery had withdrawn from the squad because he was afraid of injections.
\"He has always helped me. He does things correctly. Without him I don\'t know if I would be playing football as I do. It is the same for Arjen Robben,\"
Le Gall said that Bayern Munich used too many injections in its treatment of players and that this had made Ribery \'afraid of injections\'.
Muller-Wohlfahrt, one of the world\'s leading sports medicine specialists, who has treated sprinter Usain Bolt among others, answered in a statement released by his lawyer.
He claimed he had sent all the documents about Ribery\'s injury and discussed his \'point of view\' about Ribery\'s problems with the France staff.
This physician is a genius, I mean the way he manages to fix injury prone athletes...
"I can run 12.0"
No you can't.