5000m World Record is 10 years old this month!

Mr. Obvious wrote:

No

you learn, moron

He will never match these times: 7'23.2 , 12'43.6 which you state are equivalents to his 1500m time.

imbecile

Renato Canova wrote:

Don't think the real value of Mo is 12'53". He ran already 12'57" in 2010, when we worked together for some month in Iten, in Zurich, and now is very much stronger, after going to Salazar. To think can run near 12'40" is something reasonable, such as the possibility of running under 26'30" in 10000m.

written after his 3'28

All you idiots saying he will never run ~12:43 are the same idiots who would have said he will never break 3:30. Maybe you guys should shut up about what he can and can't do.

here venty wrote:That tells us nothing about Mo's shape except that he has better speed or that Geb was having an off day

go fetch any story of geb's

"off day"

The pace was too slow to conclude that Mo was in better shape. But you know that. So why are you even suggesting that idea?

nonsense

where did the paris guys finish in that race ?

people here hate Farah and will never admit, but he has a shot. maybe not this year. But we'll see him running a very fast 5k. Whether it will be the WR, it's impossible to say. Look at his 1.500 PR and 10k PR. It's obvious he has a shot.

Gebremeskel can get closer too. I don't think he will ever break Bekele's mark, but I see him running 12:40. everyone who is capable of running a 12:40 has a shot at the WR.

here venty wrote:Lol wow good job on failing reading comprehension. But using your own dumb logic, thanks to your listing of his slew of 12:40 5k races.

only a moron coud ask for 12'40+s prior to monaco & not comprehend where was the kenyan/ethiopian who blasted to bell in 11'38 in mo's 5ks

who was he ?

In actuality, every 5k that Farah did last year was all about the finishing kick. So yes, there is your slew of showing his emphasis on speed

drivel

he ran eugene which is a circuit race with elites

he lost

You've lost. Better luck next time ventolin.

your drivel didn't even get you into the game

Hopefully there are fast times this year. I think you need someone to push the best. Komen brought the records down and pushed HG and set a target for KB. I thought Gebrihiwot (sp?) might be that guy. Hopefully he brings it this year. dG needs someone to push him to mid 12:40s.

As always, it is fun to watch Ventolin call people names when they slightly disagree with a spreadsheet.

12:40 is very likely for Gebremeskel.

ventolin^3 wrote:

his outdoor shape in '98 was never this good despite 12'39wr

Wrong. As so often.

It doesn't tell anyone nearly as much as actually watching and analyzing the race does.Mo was in great shape, and ran a MUCH smarter race than Dejen did. Dejen finished faster than Mo did. Whether Mo was in 12:40-43 shape is a guess.

ventolin^3 wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:No

you learn, moron

He will never match these times: 7'23.2 , 12'43.6 which you state are equivalents to his 1500m time.

moron

gebmesky ran 12'46 with a 54 finish running wide both bends

he wouda been at worst 12'40-flat shape off even-pace/route 1

mo whupped him in london when presumably geb was in peak shape

what does that tell your peabrain about mo's london shape ?

Wtfunny wrote:

It doesn't tell anyone nearly as much as actually watching and analyzing the race does.

Mo was in great shape, and ran a MUCH smarter race than Dejen did. Dejen finished faster than Mo did.

Whether Mo was in 12:40-43 shape is a guess

i keep hearing this crap about every guy including even tom cobley's genera finishing faster than mo

where was their gold ???

ventolin^3 wrote:

i keep hearing this crap about every guy including even tom cobley's genera finishing faster than mo

where was their gold ???

exactly ventolin..

where was ryun's gold btw...

taking the 3:28.81 the other way makes more sense for Mo he should start running 100 and 200s

9.76>19.78>44:02>1:41.11=3:28.81

why to people round off 3;28.81 to 3:28 and not 3:29?

moron

he utterly smashed

1500 & Mile WRs

& tied 800WR as raw kid off a prelim & so ill he called health as "terrible"

go fetch his Mile time the next day as proof of condition those coupla days, when Mile was biggest WR to chase in anglo-saxon world & he was NOT WR holder before championships

5000 guy wrote:

The longest it has stood for 60 years

What an ungirly thing to do

Well, I've not read that at all … but you sure like to inflate the quality of some other athletes based on things like how much extra they ran or how fast their last lap was or what book they read the night before or who cut their hair, ad nauseum.Mo has a great kick, but more than that he runs a smarter race than most any of the guys he's running against. That matters. It's often the difference between gold and no gold. Mo's a grew racer.If you're going to imagine Mo running a 12:40 in 2012, surely you can imagine Dejen not getting boxed in and being too far behind at the bell and beating Mo as well.Or not.

ventolin^3 wrote:

Wtfunny wrote:

It doesn't tell anyone nearly as much as actually watching and analyzing the race does.

Mo was in great shape, and ran a MUCH smarter race than Dejen did. Dejen finished faster than Mo did.

Whether Mo was in 12:40-43 shape is a guess

i keep hearing this crap about every guy including even tom cobley's genera finishing faster than mo

where was their gold ???

Some athletes race well, or are tactically astute.

Other athletes are much faster, but can't apply it to a race environment.

Farah's goal has been to win races, and as a result he's done exactly that by practising the gradual move up through the pack, sit back and kick with 800/400 to go.

He's a great athlete. If he trained specifically for the 5000m, and to run fast and maybe neglect the kick tactic, then I wouldn't put it past him for a decent attempt at the WR (and certainly a lowering of his PR).

However, with the Commonwealth Games coming up, he'll be wanting to get into good race shape for the 3000/5000/10000 or whatever he races. Even after that, his move to the marathon can't be far away as he starts to reach 30.

To summarise, a 5000m WR for Farah isn't on the cards, and is probably one of the last things on his mind. For me though, a truly great, legendary athlete has to have held the WR at some stage in his or her career.

I got bashed for asking the same thing some time ago:)

it is obviously misleading, convention or not.

At least round it off to 3:28.8 in discussions.

Did Bolt run 9 sec in the 100m?

Wrong. Best 5k shape ever seen was Bekele in 2005 in Paris GL meeting.

Reached 3000m in 7:32.71 !!!

'Faded' to 12:40.18...

Bad Wigins wrote:

Drug testing holding them back? Not this year. Look at women's mid-d. They all improved by at least 9 seconds.

The 5000 world record goes down in Shanghai in just over 2 days. You heard it here first. HG 12:36.

We've seen only women greatly improving. I wonder if it works on men too.