Caster Semenya Is Marrying A Girl.

Don't blame Caster, she didn't know.

Well said wrote:

not PC wrote:

I'd like to think that if one of my friends or my sister was physiologically mostly male, they wouldn't compete at a World level in athletics, stealing fame and money from fellow competitors. By doing so, Semenya has willfully made herself a target for scrutiny and jokes about "her" gender. You can say that "she" had no part of being born with the physiology of a male, but, what she did with that advantage was entirely her choice.

Well said. What Caster did was awful and why some people can't see that, is beyond me.

Well said wrote:

not PC wrote:

I'd like to think that if one of my friends or my sister was physiologically mostly male, they wouldn't compete at a World level in athletics, stealing fame and money from fellow competitors. By doing so, Semenya has willfully made herself a target for scrutiny and jokes about "her" gender. You can say that "she" had no part of being born with the physiology of a male, but, what she did with that advantage was entirely her choice.

Well said. What Caster did was awful and why some people can't see that, is beyond me.

What exactly did Caster "do"? Beyond, you know, undergoing a "gender test", etc?

Has it been established if Semenya was XXY yet?

This country has a very illogical approach to sex and differentiation of the sexes.

For instance...

It's improper for men and women to share the same bathrooms or changing rooms. Presumably because men like women and vice versa. So it's indecent to look at the other peoples goods.

Yet Male athletes are told that it's wrong to not accept gay players into their locker rooms because "nobody is checking you out bro, don't worry about it". If you say you're uncomfortable, you're apparently a bigot.

Double Standard? Yes.

At the same time, here was an individual that was questionable as to development. And that's okay there's nothing wrong with her, it was just shaky to some if we could segregate her between men and women. Which gives rise to the question of gender identification and such segregation. Many would say she can choose, others would say it's important to integrity of sport to keep such segregation clear from birth positions.

I don't see anything wrong with questioning her development if we're going to adhere to strict distinction between men and women in sports. It would be strange not to pose such questions if someone appeared to deviate from the norm....isn't that the point?

not PC wrote:

Hilary Clinton wrote:

Second of all, not cool. I'm sure if it was your friend or sister you would be pretty upset but since it's a complete stranger it's okay to just make fun of them for something they had no part of.

I'd like to think that if one of my friends or my sister was physiologically mostly male, they wouldn't compete at a World level in athletics, stealing fame and money from fellow competitors. By doing so, Semenya has willfully made herself a target for scrutiny and jokes about "her" gender. You can say that "she" had no part of being born with the physiology of a male, but, what she did with that advantage was entirely her choice.

She was born with a "mostly male" physiology? Do you even know what that means? This is letsrun so I'm guessing, no.

Wtfunny wrote:

What exactly did Caster "do"? Beyond, you know, undergoing a "gender test", etc?

Exactly. She has not broken any rules, now or then.

Wow Unbelievable wrote:

I saw that and several other articles on this Semenya betrothal. What's interesting is what none of them say. Like...is gay marriage legal in South Africa, even? Most of them make no mention at all of Semenya's gender controversy at all.

Yeah, same sex marriage has been legal in SA for a while

You got it buddy. We have to have a well define border between who is a male or who is female, it very important for the sport. If you claim to be a female or vice versa and yet your physiology says otherwise, we gonna have to lift your skirt and check you out just to make sure.

MarathonMind wrote:

Some would not see this as a same-sex marriage.

Not unless the girl he's getting married to is a guy.

J.R. wrote:

MarathonMind wrote:

Some would not see this as a same-sex marriage.

Not unless the girl he's getting married to is a guy.

I'm so confused...up is down, black is white.

Anyone watch Eurovision song contest?

Brave New World wrote:

J.R. wrote:

Not unless the girl he's getting married to is a guy.

I'm so confused...up is down, black is white.

JR is the most legendary moron this forum has ever seen. Ignore his posts.

Makes sense to me, it would seem more strange if she married a man.

She is a hermaphrodite.

Has a vagina, but has no internal female organs (no cervix, no uterus, no fallopian tubes, no ovaries).

Instead her internal organs are male. She has internal testicles. They secrete testosterone and as a result her testosterone level is three times the average woman.

She should not be allowed to compete. Looks like a man, has facial hair and even sounds like a man.

There was a runner in Canada who was like this years ago named Glenda Reiser. Set many junior records and then disappeared from the sport when they discovered that she was a hermaphrodite.

If she were a hermaphrodite would she have been cleared to compete? I would think she also would have failed drug tests if her testosterone was 3x the normal female. If she had internal testes Wouldn't she have to have them removed or take meds to counteract the high testosterone. I don't know the rules but there has to be something in the rules.

Glenda Reiser still holds the Canadian Junior records at 800 meters, 1,000 metres, 1,500 metres, and the mile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenda_Reiser

On this picture Glenda Reiser looks like a normal female athlete:

http://store.ottawacitizen.com/products/ottawa-athlete

Anyway, most top female athletes are quite "manly". It comes with the sport.

Glenda Reiser ran 4:06 when she was a teenager at the Olympics.

That was back in 1972.

No Junior female runner, to this day in Canada, has even come close.

The Canadian high school record is 4:22.

She found out that she was a hermaphrodite shortly after, around 1974/1974.

So she quit the sport.

She became quite interested in the female body and anatomy and decided to pursue an education in Medicine.

She never got married and never had any kids. She was unable to because she had to internal female organs (just like Caster Semenya).

There is a pic of her here:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ottawacitizen/obituary.aspx?pid=100981965

Quite male looking, I would say. Take away the long hair and the make-up and you see a man's face.

I'd burn my bra too!!! wrote:

Semenya was outed as a lesbian a long time ago-- get over it!

The question is "Is she a lesbian, or a man" If one person has testes and the other doesn't, is it still a same sex marriage? Or is someone competing in the female side of track and field when they shouldn't be.

Cape Town - South Africa's star 800m runner, Caster Semenya, has dispelled any rumours of an impending engagement to fellow athlete, Violet Ledile Raseboya.

“There is no wedding. Don’t believe the rumours you read in the news,” Semenya is reported to have said by the Sowetan website.

However, according to the Daily Sun website on Monday, Semenya, 23, sent her parents to Raseboya's family in Polokwane to negotiate lobola - a traditional Southern African custom whereby the family of the fiancé is paid for her hand in marriage.

An insider revealed that both families were happy to negotiate lobola, with Semenya's family paying R25 000.

Semenya first shot to stardom in 2009 when she won gold in the women's 800m at the IAAF's World Championships in Berlin, before being controversially subjected to gender testing.

She was cleared and won the silver medal at the 2011 World Championship in Daegu.

Semenya's greatest achievement to date was a silver medal in the 800m at the 2012 London Olympics and is said to be hard in training for the upcoming Commonwealth Games in Glasgow, Scotland.