Is there any adult athlete that could win all of the running events at a competitive high school state meet?

No pure 400 runner is going to run 4:10/sub 9. I'd be impressed with 4:30. A guy like Curtis Beach would have the best shot, but again it'd have to be an off year in the distances.

Yes wrote:

Also no 400 runner/400 hurdler would have a chance in the 2 mile.

They would win it in more states than an 800 guy would win the 100/200. If Michael Johnson was capable of the 3-mile tempo runs someone posted in a thread, he could definitely do it.

Ho Hum wrote:

No pure 400 runner is going to run 4:10/sub 9. I'd be impressed with 4:30. A guy like Curtis Beach would have the best shot, but again it'd have to be an off year in the distances.

You don't need to run 4:10/sub 9 in most states. Brandon Johnson may have a better shot than Beach I think.

Few 400h hurdlers would survive the 3200m.

D Solomon or B Johnson would be my picks, assuming

US resident requirement.

A well conditioned speed-based 1:43 - 1:45 800 runner can do 9:12

for 3200m without much stress and should also go

10.7 or 10.8 from blocks over 100m. That would do

for 35-40 states at least.

Winning every event pretty much impossible in CA primarily

because heats and finals and because CA CIF is essentially a multi- state all-star meet. The typical state has 6 million people. not 39 million.

dsrunner wrote:

Few 400h hurdlers would survive the 3200m.

D Solomon or B Johnson would be my picks, assuming

US resident requirement.

A well conditioned speed-based 1:43 - 1:45 800 runner can do ... 10.7 or 10.8 from blocks over 100m.

No... they would not go much under 12.

Hardloper wrote:

dsrunner wrote:

Few 400h hurdlers would survive the 3200m.

D Solomon or B Johnson would be my picks, assuming

US resident requirement.

A well conditioned speed-based 1:43 - 1:45 800 runner can do ... 10.7 or 10.8 from blocks over 100m.

No... they would not go much under 12.

Lol. Completely false. 12???

Humanly Possible? wrote:

They would probably have to be capable of something like 10.7-8 for the 100, all the way up to 9:10 or so for the 3200.

You're assuming that the times run at national meets are the same as those run at states.

If you believe Dyestat, AT STATE MEETS in 2013, the fastest:

-3k was 8:28.62

-3200 was 8:54.48

-2 Mile was 9:22.33

If these are the best times in the country, the 30-35th best time (some states will have more than one fast runner) in the country at a state meet has gotta be at least 30-40 seconds slower.

I suspect that Mr. Beach could hit 10 flat in a two mile on a good day.

Hardloper wrote:

Josh Hamilton's Addiction wrote:

Obv it depends on what state. There are probably some really weak state winning times out there. The best bet is Rudisha hands down.

He said a competitive state. Rudisha would not win the 100m and I think a 400 guy would be a better bet.

400 guys doesn't work either though, no shot at the 1600, let alone 3200

You should go back an re-read that thread about mj, those tempo times were not correct.

Also the other poster who said a 400 meter guy can't go sub 4:10 is correct.

800 analyzer wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

No... they would not go much under 12.

Lol. Completely false. 12???

What were Coe or ovett's 100 times? Doubt they were good enough to win a state meet

Webb might have been able to? If he was good enough in the 100m/110H.

By the way, about what do people envision as what it takes to win a "competitive high school state meet"?

I was thinking something (roughly) along the lines of:

100m = 10.65

200m = 21.5

400m = 48.3

800m = 1:52.5

1600m = 4:12

3200m = 9:06

110H = 14.4

300H = 38.7

"They would probably have to be capable of something like 10.7-8 for the 100, all the way up to 9:10 or so for the 3200. Right now, Rupp would easily win everything from the 400 up, but could he (or anyone else) be trained to win all of the events on the same day?"

Didn't the original post say in the same meet? So not only are we asking an athlete like Rudisha or whoever to step up/down in distance...we're saying win the 100 AFTER running the 400 and 800. Win the two mile after winning the Mile and 200.

Nobody can do it in one meet. Sorry.

A Thief wrote:

Didn't the original post say in the same meet? So not only are we asking an athlete like Rudisha or whoever to step up/down in distance...we're saying win the 100 AFTER running the 400 and 800. Win the two mile after winning the Mile and 200.

Nobody can do it in one meet. Sorry.

Good catch.

Absolutely agree, no one is going to be able to run THAT well in all 8 events on the same day.

Hardloper wrote:

Sorry, completely true. You don't know much about athletics if you think they'd be even in the low 11's.

Wrong. Rudisha has run 45.mid for 400, any 1:43 800 guy can no doubt break 47 in peak form

You're saying that Rudishas 45.5 was basically his 100m dash capability 4 times in a row? what a joke.

anybody who can break 46-47 for 400 can no doubt go well under 11 for a 100.

Rudisha

10.7

21.3

45.5

1:41

sub-4 mile/1500 equiv

sub-9 3200??

Hardloper wrote:

Sorry, completely true. You don't know much about athletics if you think they'd be even in the low 11's.

Lol is this a joke? You think a 1:43 runner couldn't run significantly under 12?

You really think that guys that can run 45 seconds for 400m can't run an 11 flat??? So he's essentially able to hold his top speed or faster for the ENTIRE 400m dash?

Duane Solomon could giver a go

Rupp would not win the 400m in CA, TX, FL, IL, or NY on a typical year. He can't break 49 so I don't know how he would break 48.