Sprinters are NOT runners

redmeansdead wrote:

I'm guessing this is an attempt by slow distance runners to make themselves feel more credible as athletes.

yes, it just may be.

I'd be willing to bet a few bucks that if you distance runners had the jets of someone like say, Mo Greene, then you sure as hell wouldn't be runnin' 90mpw. you'd be haulin' ass down the track tryin to be the best sprinter you could be.

furthermore, i can see why a distance runner might see a 100m guy's workout as easy and one that does not require as much dedication. But what about 400m runners? workouts for a 400m guy are a bitch. I don't know about you, but i've never puked after doing a distance run. But i've hurled many a time after a 400m workout.

redmeansdead wrote:

furthermore, i can see why a distance runner might see a 100m guy's workout as easy and one that does not require as much dedication.

on the contrary - it requires just as much dedication. anyone who has ever seen real sprinters train know that they work their asses off.

you may think they're not, because they take long rests for the amount of distance they cover - like 4-5 minutes for an 80 meter sprint. but it actually takes that long to recover.

i'd like to see some distance runners try to be sprinters - and none of this "sprinters are just naturally fast crap". some flexibility and plyo drills, a good half hour working technically on the start, some hard short sprints, and go hit the weight room. i can almost guarantee folks will be clamoring for their 10 mile tempo runs.

Well if they're not, I'd like to know what they ARE.

logition,

i did not say that a 100m runners workouts were necessarily easy. I said "i can see why a distance runner might think so".

sorry, misinterpreted the last part of you sentence.

Gonzo4.0 wrote:

Well if they're not, I'd like to know what they ARE.

they are "sprinters" and sprinters by defn are not runners.

they might qualify as joggers.

6packjack wrote:

In our hearts we know this to be true.

if you'd see how clyde hart trains his "sprinters", you'd change your mind. They truly are "runners" as well as sprinters.

i am a distance runner [1500-1/2 marathon] who has [when asked by my coach] sprinted [400 & hurdle relays]. I can tell you right now that sprinters are "runners". Their workouts, though they are over sooner than ours are just as intense...if not more so...Personally I would like to see whatever sad excuse for a "runner" that started this thread try to do a 100-400 workout. And all the weightlifting, plyometrics and start training that accompanies it, say after a few months that "sprinters aren't runners". SPRINTERS ARE RUNNERS!!

Long distance runners are runners.

Sprinters are about the same as football players.

Steeple people are....well...uh..steeple people.

guys like Greene and Johnson run (and did run) over 30mpw. That's more than some of the "runners" on this board.

Snail Boy wrote:

Sprinters are about the same as football players.

That about says all that needs to be said.

trackhead wrote:

guys like Greene and Johnson run (and did run) over 30mpw. That's more than some of the "runners" on this board.

Very different training styles. Clyde Hart's guys can get to 30+ (fall only), or more than some 800 guys. John Smith's different. Early season training (January)from a seminar given by Smith:

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Monday:

1. Warm up and Drills

2. 3 (3 x 60)

3. 300 / 200 or 2 x 250 or 3 x 200

Tuesday:

1. Warm up

2. Starts

3. Relays

Wednesday:

1. Warm up

2. 3 x 300 or 3 x 250 or 5 x 150 or 3 (3x80)

Thursday:

1. Warm up

2. Starts

3. Relays

Friday:

Rest if competing or

4 x 4 x 40 Meters W/ 90 second R/R (5 minutes between sets)

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Charlie Francis would have some aerobic volume, from 10X100 @70% three times a week for 100 guys to 4K aerobic three times a week for 800 guys like me. But we are definitely not talking 30 mpw here.

As to the main topic of this thread, just about every true sprinter would agree. I'm kind of in both worlds since I'm with Charlie, but my main event is 800 (I do 60/100/200 during indoors). But if you go anywhere that sprinters hang out, you won't find ANYONE referring to themselves as a "runner." For someone competing in 100, that's almost a deragatory term. As in someone too slow to sprint. We're NOT runners. We're SPRINTERS.

Some basic physics: Fast running uses more energy per unit of time or distance than slow running. Many distance runners would not be as worn out from a sprint workout as real sprinters for the simple reason that they can't run as fast.

sprinters sprint and jog. i don't know any that run.

Not Julius Sumner Miller wrote:

Some basic physics: Fast running uses more energy per unit of time or distance than slow running. Many distance runners would not be as worn out from a sprint workout as real sprinters for the simple reason that they can't run as fast.

May be true, BUT it takes the SAME amount of cals to move a given weight 100 meters whether you do it in 9 sec or 9 minutes.

whats the difference between sprinters and distance runners, they both run...

wel sprinters run faster, so why isnt it credited as being a runner, i agree that this is just an attempt by distance runners to make themselves feel that they are more hardcore and more important, well if all you US distance runners (including myself) would actually be true runners and run faster then maybe you can say this. Until US distance is as strong as ethiopia or kenya, the sprinters tsill have a leg up on the distance crew and have my respect

distance runners are jealous because they are nerds with small dicks

define runner: someone who goes for runs? sound alright?

sprinters DO NOT go for runs, their training consists of about 400m jog warm up, drills, sprints, short jog cool down aswell as gym sessions and others.... Distance runners go for RUNS which in my book is a road run or running trails etc..., sprinters do not do this.