That psycho sprintgeezer started a thread on this a long time ago, is this the same guy?
That psycho sprintgeezer started a thread on this a long time ago, is this the same guy?
He's a doper but this site appears to have given him a pass looking at the quote of the day. So someone can look at a sprinter and tell he is doped but the athlete themselves would not know they are on something
They are probably all doping. The ones that get caught even if they seem like a nice guy and are American not Russian are definitely doping
The BROJOS have an agenda, probably from their affiliation with ADIDAS, to protect Tyson Gay.
I advise them to stop, they will look really silly when the truth comes out.
Tyson Gay was on drugs when he ran 9.69 and everyone knows it.
I just found this UK article from August about Gay's possible 2 year suspension, that includes the following quote:
"A letter seen by the BBC, said: 'Using the Carbon Isotope Ratio Analysis it reported that the sample had an adverse analytical finding reflecting values that are consistent with the administration of a steroid of exogenous [external] nature.'"
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When did Gay get dropped from Project Believe? I found references to him being involved with it around the 2008 Olympics but I cannot seem to find a more current athletic roster of active participants (other than Allyson Felix in 2012).
C/M Runner wrote:
When did Gay get dropped from Project Believe? I found references to him being involved with it around the 2008 Olympics but I cannot seem to find a more current athletic roster of active participants (other than Allyson Felix in 2012).
You're never off of it. It was basically giving your biological passport back before they began collecting samples for everyone else.
Everyone on initially gave extensive blood and and urine samples to make the detection of any illicit substances or their derivatives.
The association with an "anti-aging" doctor plus the unusually long and tight-lipped process makes me think that federal law enforcement is part of the picture here.
I am pretty sure Gay was clean up until '08. Gay, Felix, Trotter and a few others volunteered for Project Believe, which conducted more frequent and stringent drug testing than WADA did at that time and saved the results similar to the biological passport system. I guess nothing is absolutely certain, but a dirty athlete would be crazy to cheat under those circumatances and especially knowing your 'blood' can be retested over and over again as new detection technology becomes available. Starting in '09 or '10, WADA's testing pretty much came up to par with Project Believe and i think they lost their funding becasue it was a duplication. - Being a part of Project Believe or anything beyond what you have to would be an extreme and unecessary risk. If I was dirty or anyone with half a brain, I would only take the tests I have to and pray I don't get caught.
Btw, there are some positives from about 7 months ago that WADA is sitting on...I don't know who and why they have not been presented.
Xfit_moron_the_real_1 wrote:
Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:Nothing to see here guys. Gay is clean. He trusted someone and was betrayed. He is now working with USADA to have the situation resolved.
Gay is an honest man who has proven time and time again that if you put in the hard work, you can compete with the best while being clean.
Nobody cares what you say because in this internally-inconsistent post you have proven yourself to be a total moron.
Yeah I don't understand sarcasm either.
lol people really think Tyson was clean anytime recently?
Nobody on the podium is clean. Nobody close to it is clean. You think Lauryn Williams ran 10.90 clean with that godawful technique?
How about this one: Do people think Doc Patton voluntarily retired after running insane PBs in the 60m and in his windy 100m? Gimme a break.
Limp Dix beaten by Gay
lulz wrote:
lol people really think Tyson was clean anytime recently?
Nobody on the podium is clean. Nobody close to it is clean. You think Lauryn Williams ran 10.90 clean with that godawful technique?
How about this one: Do people think Doc Patton voluntarily retired after running insane PBs in the 60m and in his windy 100m? Gimme a break.
Hey, everyone! Listen up! lulz here is going to give us the real insider scoop on all this! He's been on the inside for a long time, so sit down and listen as lulz loosens his tie and sits down on his desk to give us the straight real truth that could only come from someone who really knows!
I don't understand sarcasm wrote:
Xfit_moron_the_real_1 wrote:Nobody cares what you say because in this internally-inconsistent post you have proven yourself to be a total moron.
Yeah I don't understand sarcasm either.
Yeah I don't understand backpedaling either.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Hey, everyone! Listen up! lulz here is going to give us the real insider scoop on all this! He's been on the inside for a long time, so sit down and listen as lulz loosens his tie and sits down on his desk to give us the straight real truth that could only come from someone who really knows!
lol yeah, takes a genius to know short girls don't run sub 11 clean with godawful technique and no male retires after setting all sorts of PBs, running 9.7, and having a contract.
lulz wrote:
no male retires after setting all sorts of PBs, running 9.7, and having a contract.
Which has never happened in the history of the world.
Yeah, Doc didn't open his season with a 6.50 60m PB, run a windy 9.75, and some crazy relay legs. You're right.
So why did he retire? "Too old?" Gimme a break.
lulz wrote:
Yeah, Doc didn't open his season with a 6.50 60m PB, run a windy 9.75, and some crazy relay legs. You're right.
So why did he retire? "Too old?" Gimme a break.
How does a single personal best equal "all sorts of PBs"? The fact that you wrote "PBs" means that you claimed he set at least more than one, though you now recognize that what you wrote was incorrect.
He could run a windy 9.0 in the 100m and it wouldn't count for anything (other than an unofficial, all conditions best). Obadalle Thompson ran 9.69 with similar wind but he didn't get any benefit from it.
Do you see how your claim that Patton retired after "setting loads of PBs, running 9.7, and having a contract" is totally incorrect? He set a single personal best, not loads. He failed to record a single legal mark under 10 seconds in the 100m. His last result of the year was in May when ran over 12 seconds in the 100m, presumably meaning he was injured.
He retired because of injury (which was not going to recede with each passing day) and because I'm sure Nike was not going to renew him after an abysmal 2013 (especially at his age).
"Hey, everyone! Listen up! Wigand here is going to give us the real insider scoop on all this! He's been on the inside for a long time, so sit down and listen as Wigand loosens his tie and sits down on his desk to give us the straight real truth that could only come from someone who really knows!"
What a useless tool Wigand is. I miss the geezer, i remember when he tore Wigand a new one. Maybe this sprint thread will bring him back, he was a Patton fan IIRC
I'm not wearing a tie.
lmao Abysmal 2013? Dude ran f*cking 6.50 opener in the 60m. Do you follow the sprints much? That is one of the fastest openers ever. In his 9.75w, he beat the NCAA champ and some of the top sprinters in the US. He ran easily the fastest legs on a couple different 38.x thrown together relay teams. You are delusional, Wigand. Kill yourself.
Yeah, 'injury.' Right.
