Hardloper wrote:
Yafthink wrote:Are we suppose to think he's e hero because he does what 99.9% of runners do.
That's precisely why.
Well said. My mistake for not understanding that I would have to spell it all out for the dolts and dullards on the board. I'm guessing he's a little closer to being an elite than the rest of us. Yes, we ALL go to work the next day but then we're not quite running 2:12 on a bad day either.
Boel wrote:
Those images prove why Kim Smith is a horrendous marathoner. Her footstrike energy goes straight downward when compared to the Africans toe-off.
2:25 is horrendous?
blue collar wrote: Yes, we ALL go to work the next day but then we're not quite running 2:12 on a bad day either.
...and Kawauchi is the only "real" fulltime worker who has run as fast as he has (2:08).
A fulltime working runner could only dream of running 2:12 at New York. More impressive, it was Kawauchi's 9th marathon of the year.
This year, Kawauchi ran 2:08:15 on February 3 and 2:08:14 on March 17. Six weks apart--Amazing. In between those two 2:08's he ran a 30K and a half marathon.
Yuki obviously has no PR agent. Let's see, in the article that Brett posted, Yuki managed to say things that could be insulting about:
Stephen Kiprotich (Yuki beat him)
The WC field in 2013 (weak)
The WC field in 2011 (weak)
Arata Fujiwara (laughed at his previous NYCM time)
Geoffrey Mutai (wasting a lot of energy)
Japanese races with pace-makers.
The crowds at the Tokyo marathon.
Gcol wrote:
Ah, to be young again and not have any responsibilities outside of work.. completely living for oneself.
His dad died when he was in high school and he has helped take care of his mom and raise his two younger brothers since then.
doesn't mince words wrote:
Yuki obviously has no PR agent.
And that's part of why people respect him.
Yuki ran 15 miles the day before the Marathon and 12 miles the day after. Even the other elite runners were slack jawed when hearing about his training.
hurtin wrote:
Yuki ran 15 miles the day before the Marathon and 12 miles the day after. Even the other elite runners were slack jawed when hearing about his training.
I'm guessing the 10 people who finished ahead of him didn't do that. Hmmmmm.
Don't get me wrong, 2:12 at NYM on a windy day is a very respectable time. But I have no idea why he would run 15 miles the day before one of the biggest races of his life. There is no way that helped him on Sunday.
clearly he's doing something right. who are you to be the coach and say don't run 15 miles. maybe it DOES work for him in some odd way. "oh but he would've ran faster if he didnt do 15 the day prior". maybe, but MAYBE NOT!!!!!!!
Isn't anybody else sick and tired of hearing about this guy? And to the poster who said he need a public relations person, the guy is his own self promoter and means every statement he makes. Everything is about how he is too good to accept appearance fees or a sponsor and about how he is supposed to be some sort of rebel? Sticking it to the corporations? Gimme a break. This guy is more self-righteous then Dean K. only he happens to be quite a bit more of a masochist. I don't get how punishing yourself day in and day out is supposed to be somehow standing up for the blue collar common man. This guy is a complete lunatic. And shame on the people who support this type of behavior.
He's not allowed to accept appearance fees and I assume that applies to sponsorships as well. It's a nice contrast to all the pros who don't do anything but run and play video games.
Probably there is someone else who is sick and tired of hearing about "this guy." Evidently there are a lot more of us who are not. He's not "too good" to accept appearance fees. He's not allowed to. Anyway, if you're so sick of hearing about him why are you reading this thread? The title is a pretty good tip off that you'll hear even more about him if you read it.
HRE wrote:
Probably there is someone else who is sick and tired of hearing about "this guy." Evidently there are a lot more of us who are not. He's not "too good" to accept appearance fees. He's not allowed to. Anyway, if you're so sick of hearing about him why are you reading this thread? The title is a pretty good tip off that you'll hear even more about him if you read it.
I'm reading this thread because I am stating my protest against him and his insistence that he is Mr. Golden Boy just because he punishes himself for seemingly no reason. He's a bad influence on people. He of course, can do what he likes, but I have every right to state my opinion. All that he has really done is waste his abilities on a compulsion to stick it to the man. If he had proper training, a real coach, proper tapering, and quit his job and gave into the sponsors then he would be a 2:05 guy easily. But he seems to care more about seeking attention for his go it alone persona then he does about actually winning races. What is he trying to prove exactly? That turning down any help from anybody and going it rouge is supposed to make you a hero? It's okay to accept help. Nobody can go it alone forever.
Doesn't sound like a guy with full time employment does he...? More like part time gig with all this racing going on. Keep trying boys...
Hobby Joggor wrote:
blue collar wrote: Yes, we ALL go to work the next day but then we're not quite running 2:12 on a bad day either....and Kawauchi is the only "real" fulltime worker who has run as fast as he has (2:08).
A fulltime working runner could only dream of running 2:12 at New York. More impressive, it was Kawauchi's 9th marathon of the year.
This year, Kawauchi ran 2:08:15 on February 3 and 2:08:14 on March 17. Six weks apart--Amazing. In between those two 2:08's he ran a 30K and a half marathon.
Anyone know if he is allowed to accept appearance fees?
MarD wrote:
Anyone know if he is allowed to accept appearance fees?
I heard he does accept appearance fees and some sponsorship money. I mean, Why wouldn't he?
I'll bet you probably hate puppies and rainbows too. (but hey, that's cool).
RUNNER FROM THE NORTH COUNTRY wrote:
HRE wrote:Probably there is someone else who is sick and tired of hearing about "this guy." Evidently there are a lot more of us who are not. He's not "too good" to accept appearance fees. He's not allowed to. Anyway, if you're so sick of hearing about him why are you reading this thread? The title is a pretty good tip off that you'll hear even more about him if you read it.
I'm reading this thread because I am stating my protest against him and his insistence that he is Mr. Golden Boy just because he punishes himself for seemingly no reason. He's a bad influence on people. He of course, can do what he likes, but I have every right to state my opinion. All that he has really done is waste his abilities on a compulsion to stick it to the man. If he had proper training, a real coach, proper tapering, and quit his job and gave into the sponsors then he would be a 2:05 guy easily. But he seems to care more about seeking attention for his go it alone persona then he does about actually winning races. What is he trying to prove exactly? That turning down any help from anybody and going it rouge is supposed to make you a hero? It's okay to accept help. Nobody can go it alone forever.
MarD wrote:
Anyone know if he is allowed to accept appearance fees?
In an interview with R4YL Magazine recently, he said that he is NOT able to accept expense money because his civil servant's job forbids it but that he CAN win prize money.
I have read several pieces about him and I cannot recall any instance where he referred to himself as Mr. Golden Boy in any way or ever mentioned "sticking it to the man." I think most of us like him because he seems like he does the sport because it's enjoyable to him and he'd rather not quit his job or work for a corporate sponsor or have a real coach. One reason I like him is that I think he's a good influence on people. So many runners nowadays graduate from school and think that unless they get hooked up with some group and coach that they might as well quit running, that you can't train and race seriously if you have to work full time, etc. Kawauchi shows that you can work and run seriously, something all of us in the old days knew.
You do have every right to state your opinion but it's really hard to read it and not see you as bitter.
full gas wrote:
I love how prolific this guy is but please... He sits on his arse all day, he's a clerk at a desk; I guess you can call that work or not. How about not.
You should try working in Japan one day. 2 hour commute each way for some people. 6 days a week. Guilt if you want to take a vacation. It's not like it is in America...