Kenya on the verge of being banned from the Olympics. Yet Canova and others assert that Kenyans aren't rampantly cheatin

El Keniano wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

it is a $ question

kenya is a 3rd world country where running/throwing is a minor issue

they have no budget to waste on sports, let alone testing

budget spent on feeding people & fighting ethiopian/ugandan bandits/brigands

running/throwing is far away main sport there behind kicka-ball

WADA has a ~ $10 million OOC budget

they spend some of it on OOC-tests

they need to spend more on kenya tests

or do they think money was better spent on sending a tester on 'plane/train/bus/camel/donkey/ass to melanesia/namibia/mauritania/malvinas ???

For once, this dude has it right.

Seriously.

I agree with you Keniano.

Ventolin, you nailed this one. Ha ha ha!

it is only a handful, no?

trollism wrote:

NativeSon wrote:

WE DON'T NEED DRUGS TO WIN PEOPLE. WE DO NOT.

So why are so many getting caught then?

Most of these fellows are not top notch. As Dr. Renato Canova said, some Doctors (or a Doctor) has been going round trying to woo gullible new young runners and sadly, some of them have fallen victim. Whether they knew that what they were doing is illegal is another issue.

The fact still,remains that our elite runners, may be 99% (with the exception of Kisorio and may be three others) are clean.

I know that this a very emotive issue here but another salient fact is we don't need drugs to win. That is self evident.

Way overblown. Cannot see it happening.

wow that would suck, but I can't imagine an entire team being banned. If so the few cheaters will have some major splainin' to do, to a bunch of angry feet... in the ass..

if they do get banned, it'll basically be a penalty for being poor and having dysfunctional government. (I'd say the dysfunction comes from being poor but America's no one to point fingers right now). That sucks. Yeah they have a lot of cheating but cracking down on it takes a lot of resources -- bureaucratic efficiency is a resource! -- that Kenya doesn't see to have.

The ones getting caught are not winning.

trollism wrote:

So why are so many getting caught then?

NativeSon wrote:

WE DON'T NEED DRUGS TO WIN PEOPLE. WE DO NOT.

What do you expect Canova to say?

"I've helped dope more champions than Victor Conte and Dr. Michele Ferrari combined?"

In the words of OJ, Canova will tell you he is "Absolutely, positively, 100% not guilty."

On that basis USA should have been banned years ago

The Mail is a comic for wankers

WADA has the authority to declare Kenyan "noncompliant" if it decides to do so. That in itself will cause Kenyan to be banned from the Olympics under the World Anti-Doping Code until Kenya takes measures to make them compliant in WADA's determination. WADA has already threatened a noncompliant declaration in the case of Jamaica.

It's not because Europe or USA doesn't like them that they have to worry. It's because they're cheating and they've been caught (or caught not testing in Jamaica's case).

and if they manage to ban the EPOpians, Oregon Project athletes will finish 1 through 6 at the Olympics. Thats how we will know we finally have a clean field.

Really? Did you read any of the articles?WADA could make a determination that Kenya is not compliant with the WADA code. That in itself does NOT ban Kenya.That decision is up to the IOC.WADA's immediate concern isn't that Kenyans are cheating, and have been caught. They seem to be upset with the Kenyan Federation for a lack of response. They simply want a status report.

coach d wrote:

WADA has the authority to declare Kenyan "noncompliant" if it decides to do so. That in itself will cause Kenyan to be banned from the Olympics under the World Anti-Doping Code until Kenya takes measures to make them compliant in WADA's determination. WADA has already threatened a noncompliant declaration in the case of Jamaica.

It's not because Europe or USA doesn't like them that they have to worry. It's because they're cheating and they've been caught (or caught not testing in Jamaica's case).

Do cashed strapped countries have any way if currying favor with the IOC? It would undermine their power to extract bribes if they started doling out favorable rulings for free.

Yep. Kenya, Jamaica, USA - ALL of them will be at the 2016 Olympics. Forget the possibility, there is a better chance of Alan Webb beating the Kenyans fair and square than the Kenyans getting banned. I will take 100:1 bets on it.

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There's something to consider:

If Bolt got caught it would be devastating for the sport.

If the Kenyans get caught it's good for the sport.

Why? You ask:

No more anonymous (to the typical Western viewer) Africans winning every race. Europeans can win (again).

Personalities (again) like Bedford, Foster, Walker, Dixon, I can go on and on, will dominate the sport.

Popularity will increase, money will increase, the sport will be as famous as it was back in the day (pre-African domination).

Most of you are too young to remember those days.

For an idea, check out the Liquari/Ryan Dream Mile at Franklin Field back in about 71, it's on Youtube.

...or Matthews, or Maddoews or Schultz or MSBNC.

Why don't you mention THEM you putz?

51% allegedly voted for this current occupant of the oval office and now we have a $17T deficit, borders like cheesecloth and Harry Reed (who's a millionaire himself) whining about "The rich".

You have democratic solons talking about being "freed slaves" and asking members of the military if islands in the pacific will sink due to having too many US naval vessels anchored there.

Yes, why don't you hit BOTH sides?

If Kenya are sanctioned before Turkey, China, the US or Russia then it will be a grave injustice.

[quote]rekrunner wrote:

The ones getting caught are not winning.

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And the ones not getting caught are winning ...