I ran 4:25 in high school, how good does that make me?

Sorry, last words to summarize my previous 2 posts:

For a guy who ran 4:25 in high school, the answer to the question, "how good were you?"

It's: "I ran 4:25 in high school."

Good enough to place in most state meets (save the really big states, where it's probably good enough to place high in a big conference meet and score points at a regional/sectional championship, but maybe not (but maybe so in a lot of cases) enough to get to state).

DI - could walk on at half the schools or more

DII - get at least a partial scholarship at most schools, probably not a top 20

DIII/NAIA - hardly a program in the country that wouldn't welcome a 4:25 1600 m runner

Post college - good local/regional class runner. Win a lot of the local races; good placing at regional level races (assuming that the runner trains enough to run relatively equavalent times at longer distances (say 15:30 or faster for 5K, sub 26 8K).

420 … Mile? wrote:

If you ran 4:25, then you should know enough about the sport to know how good that makes you. Did you ever run in any meets? It seems safe to assume that you did. This is all the info you should need.

Anyways, you would be be a state qualifier in almost any state and a state placer in many smaller classifications. 4:25 is likely among the top 1% of all high school runners.

This is the right answer. Someone said this was "middle of the road". I'd like to know what road.

A 4:25 miles means you ran a faster higher high mile than Pat Porter did. Be proud. :-)

Flagpole wrote:

420 … Mile? wrote:

If you ran 4:25, then you should know enough about the sport to know how good that makes you. Did you ever run in any meets? It seems safe to assume that you did. This is all the info you should need.

Anyways, you would be be a state qualifier in almost any state and a state placer in many smaller classifications. 4:25 is likely among the top 1% of all high school runners.

This is the right answer. Someone said this was "middle of the road". I'd like to know what road.

It is middle of the road. It's not great and it's not bad. If someone can beat you by a straightaway, you're not that good.

kekek wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

This is the right answer. Someone said this was "middle of the road". I'd like to know what road.

It is middle of the road. It's not great and it's not bad. If someone can beat you by a straightaway, you're not that good.

Top 1% can NEVER be considered middle of the road by those with functioning brains.

Middle of the road may be 40th - 60th percentiles. Or perhaps 25th - 75th percentiles. 99th percentile? Ummm...no.

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40 years ago, 4:55 was JV at best. At least where I came from. 4:25 was ok, but not great then. You were varsity on most (but not all) teams. It's ok but not great now as well.

Your perspective probably depends on when and where you came from. If you went to HS in the 90's, you probably consider 4:25 to be a lot better than someone from SoCal from the 70's would.

daisy sniffer wrote:

moron wrote:

Everyone ran 4:30 in high school.

Yeah, just like everybody here currently runs a 14 minute 5k and makes over $250k/year.

Or has read the best running book ever written!