Ryan Hall is doing a 24 miler on a treadmill today

bleu wrote:

Testing for what? No one has fitness tests done over 24 miles. Are you kidding me. He doesn't even have a coach to use the data. I guess he is a physiologist on the side.

Didn't you know Jesus is a physiologist? Hall will receive his test results in a dream tomorrow night and will be given divine intelligence to interpret the data.

bleu wrote:

Testing for what? No one has fitness tests done over 24 miles. Are you kidding me. He doesn't even have a coach to use the data. I guess he is a physiologist on the side.

It's true that it's for testing purposes.

Ryan Hall ‏@ryanhall3 5h

@alistaircragg Not really. Just getting some testing done. What's next for you?

I love Ryan. He's genuinely himself. 24 on a treadmill. Wow. I know after ten miles, I'm hallucinating. Perhaps, he will, too!

That tweet reads like something from Josh Cox.

And thus is the fate of Ryan Hall's career I guess

bleu wrote:

Testing for what? No one has fitness tests done over 24 miles. Are you kidding me. He doesn't even have a coach to use the data. I guess he is a physiologist on the side.

I laughed at this. :0)

You guys have to be joking, everyone knows the 24 hour TM test is the corner stone for Faith Based coaching from distances from the 1500 through the Marathon. You hop on, hit start and pray you no one rings the doorbell, you have to take a dump. It's the ultimate test oh how secluded and regular you have became during training.

robert paulson wrote:

Maybe he afraid of getting lapped if he does it on a track.

Yep he was gonna do a run on the roads but Deena was gonna be on same course and he was worried as she is really closing gap on him. :) Just kidding. Love them both.

bleu wrote: Testing for what? No one has fitness tests done over 24 miles. Are you kidding me.

I have no idea what Hall's plan here is, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the possible benefits. Obviously he's not doing a "fitness test" -- this isn't junior high gym class. Marathoners have to deal with a bunch of issues late in the race, like fatigue-induced biomechanical changes and also metabolic changes in what sorts of fuel they burn and how efficiently. Getting some precise measurements about what happens to your body after 2+ hours of running could be useful to figure out how to counteract those changes.

To say Hall is done, is the understatement of the century. All of his last ditch efforts to rejuvenate his career are analogous to the surging a runner does to catch back up with the pack before they break and get dusted. Done and done.

I clearly agree with the ridiculousness of running 24 miles on a treadmill. However, perhaps he is measuring blood lactate levels, glucose levels, etc that require a blood testS late into a 2+ hour run. This would be hard to do in motion while on the road, especially if samples were taken every mile or half mile.

I would be very interested in seeing the metabolic changes in an athlete over the span of 24 miles. Think you could learn a lot about your strengths and weaknesses, fueling strategies, etc.

So although I agree that running 24 miles is somewhat absurd, if he is getting a slew of real time data on his body during a 2 hour run that he couln't get otherwise, then it may in fact be useful.

24 miler on a regular treadmill AND an elite elite athlete (our best marathoner, pretty much, unless you hold Dathan in higher esteem) eating such completely nutritionally empty garbage like Muscle Milk products,

BOTH are mystifying to me.

Either he's getting paid significantly to give tweet shoutouts to Muscle Milk, or he's an idiot. Elite athletes succeed IN-SPITE of sh*t-poor nutrition habits like this, not BECAUSE of them.

Muscle Milk products--last time I checked--contained only macro-nutrients--maybe a few artificially added synthetic forms of vitamins and minerals.

The fat content is way too high for any person--elite athlete or regular Joe--and is usually composed of cheap, nutritionally inferior, chemically refined and overly processed Food Industry oil.

There are far better ways of getting (and how your average health-conscious person, much less, America's most elite marathoner, SHOULD be getting) your macro-nutrients, whatever your intention is: healthy fats, protein or high GI / fast intake, easily digested sugar / sugar loading.

Admittedly, this nonsense (using a whole slew of similar, commercially distributed, over-hyped conventional "sport performance" products) is the norm amongst elite athletes in many sports. What a shame.

Finally, after opening my big mouth, I did the fact checking--either OP is lying or Ryan Hall deleted this tweet in question. I cannot find it.

I wish I was smart enough to make up a troll thread this good. He actually did tweet it which means he actually did delete it as well. He must have seen this thread, which means Ryan Hall frequents LR!

Its very smokey in Redding CA from wildfires, and has been for over a week. Its been very hard to get decent runs in for anyone in the area.

I checked and DID find this tweet yesterday, so its not a straight troll thread.

usual let's run idiots and e-penis wagging. "Oh I'm so manly, I always run outside...oh look at me...I'm better than hall"

I've do regular long runs on a treadmill because I have a child I watch. A run is a run, there is no determent to running long on the treadmill.

It's simply a tool...like most of you

Sounds like a knucklehead thing to do.

Sorry, but that's what I come up with.

Think of it this way: it allows him to do quality running for a long time (24 miles at 10% incline would take forever), without the pounding that may come from a normal ~3hr run.