Additional info: I placed 15th at my state meet with the 9:30
Additional info: I placed 15th at my state meet with the 9:30
Maybe now, but what were your team-mates running as Juniors in High School?
actual D3 runner wrote: You guys don't know sh*t about D3. Six guys on my team including me are sub 4 for the 1500, and five guys are sub 15 for the 5000. A 4:30 miler would be back of the pack at a lot of D3 schools.
Haverford: five under 4, six under 15
North Central: three under 4, five under 15
Calvin: two under 4, four under 15
Wisconsin-La Crosse: six under 4, three under 15
Wisconsin-Eau Claire: three under 4, two under 15
Middlebury: four under 4, one under 15
Washington U.: zero under 4, six under 15
Bates: six under 4, four under 15
You go to one of the deepest schools in D3. Your school might turn away a 4:30 hs miler, but other than about five schools, you are not back of the pack as a 4:30 miler.
Randomly choosing a decent D3 runner (fifth runner at xc nationals for the 25th best team): Pryor Stroud from Pomona; hs pr's of 2:01, 4:34, 9:46. current pr's of 3:59, 15:19.
There are hundreds of D3 track programs.
My guess is that most of those sub 4 1500 guys ran 4:30 or so in highschool. 4:30-1600 to 3:59 1500 in college seems like a pretty typical progression.
Definitely some d2 or d1 will look if you break 16 this xc season
It all depends on your area as far as what those guys said. In my state there's a D1 school with guys that run 1:55-even 2:05 in the 800m, 4:00-4:05 in the 1500m and I think some of the 5K's are 16's. Yes, a D1 school.
Trackjacket3 wrote:
It all depends on your area as far as what those guys said. In my state there's a D1 school with guys that run 1:55-even 2:05 in the 800m, 4:00-4:05 in the 1500m and I think some of the 5K's are 16's. Yes, a D1 school.
you must be from one of "the bullshit states"
Haverford: five under 4, six under 15
North Central: three under 4, five under 15
Calvin: two under 4, four under 15
Wisconsin-La Crosse: six under 4, three under 15
Wisconsin-Eau Claire: three under 4, two under 15
Middlebury: four under 4, one under 15
Washington U.: zero under 4, six under 15
Bates: six under 4, four under 15
You go to one of the deepest schools in D3. Your school might turn away a 4:30 hs miler, but other than about five schools, you are not back of the pack as a 4:30 miler.
Randomly choosing a decent D3 runner (fifth runner at xc nationals for the 25th best team): Pryor Stroud from Pomona; hs pr's of 2:01, 4:34, 9:46. current pr's of 3:59, 15:19.
There are hundreds of D3 track programs.
Hey thanks for the shoutout bro!
D3 offers track scholarships?
I don't think so. Your times are good enuff to run D3
Where are you from?
I run at a D1 college, and sorry bro but I have to call BS on your statement. Name the school and back up all that talk that apparently moves faster than your legs.
The top guy on my d3 team has a 14:35 PR with two other guys under 15.
The slowest guy hasn't broken 21 yet.
You'll fit in somewhere between them.
actual D3 runner wrote:
You guys don't know sh*t about D3. Six guys on my team including me are sub 4 for the 1500, and five guys are sub 15 for the 5000. A 4:30 miler would be back of the pack at a lot of D3 schools.
Wow, insecure much about D3 that you need to make a post like this. First of all, if your team really has run these times it is one of the best d3 schools in the country, not the typical d3 school. Secondly, his times are from his JUNIOR year of high school, not as one of the amazing college runners you have on your team that are older and have been training at a college level for one to four years. Lastly, whenever someone makes a post like yours, they always pick out the weakest time. He also ran 9:30 in the 3200, which at the high school level is much better.
It is nice that you run at such a competitive d3 school, but don't start ripping on 9:30 guys because you think you and your teammates are amazing. You are not.
u miami, 1 of their best ever w/school rec 4:11i mile:
in hs:
Named to all-state team for both cross country and track 2009-2010 ... Recorded personal-bests of 49 seconds in 400m, 1:53 in 800m, 4:11 in 1600m, 9:17 in 3200m and 14:44 in 5000m.
I've coached D3. You'll be a stud at all but the national championship level.
Though there's no scholarships in D3, there are certain advantages offered to top athletes - advantages in admissions and in financial aid. (At least so far as I heard... the XC program could not have been a lower priority where I coached, part of the reason I quit)
If you improve even 10 s in the two you might be able to get some money from a DI program. The key will be to look for weak schools - weak in running and weak academically. If you've got decent scores and grades you can use that as leverage to get an athletic scholarship, kind of the opposite of D3 where maybe you can use your running to gain admission to a school that otherwise wouldn't admit you.
My advice is to train hard this summer and see if you can get those times down. Bill Rodgers was only a little faster than you in HS and look what he eventually accomplished. You never know.
You can probably walk on at a fair amount of decent Division I schools with those times as a junior. You can also get money from the lower tier D1 schools with those times. So the choice is really about the school you want to attend and whether you want to compete in D1 athletics. I'm not saying anything bad about D3 athletics but the competition you run into weekly in D3 is signifcantly lower than D1. Some people thrive in that, some people wilt. So pick the school you want to attend and focus on that. Good Luck!
Link wrote:
If you improve even 10 s in the two you might be able to get some money from a DI program. The key will be to look for weak schools - weak in running and weak academically.
This sounds like a recipe for a disappointing college experience, both athletically and academically. Why look for a bad school with bad coaching?
Ho Hum wrote:
Link wrote:If you improve even 10 s in the two you might be able to get some money from a DI program. The key will be to look for weak schools - weak in running and weak academically.
This sounds like a recipe for a disappointing college experience, both athletically and academically. Why look for a bad school with bad coaching?
By 'weak', I meant 'not good'. There are some really good coaches at schools that will never make NCAA's. And maybe the OP isn't academically oriented and needs money. My point is that 9:30 can get you $ at DI if you're willing to dig around a little. Also, maybe NAIA is a possibility?
Your times were much like my son's junior year times. He was approached by all of the div 3 team he expressed an interest in and heavily recruited by a few with very good xc/track programs. It got him into schools that would have rejected him otherwise but unfortunately, his #1 choice (a great program!) didn't offer him any "merit aid" which is often offered to recruited applicants. Totally depends on the admissions and financial aid office.
Of course you use his worst pr as an example. I'm sure you and your 'elite' teammates were not running 9:30 as juniors