truth or consequences wrote:
* wrote:Since Ben is banned for life did his appearance at the meet contaminate the entire meet, making all results unofficial?
Geez, that's a damn good question.
Good lord! I can't believe an entire group of meet organisers, athletes and support people didn't think of this.
I got a soft spot for Ben. Yeah he cheated. Maybe it's just the time past, but I like him. Wish him well and would like to see him more.
Since it was a mixed relay and an unofficial event I really don't think Ben's appearance should effect the rest of the meet.
But you never know.
Wow, a lot of jealousy and hate on this thread. There is a guy who is 50+, strong, buff, fast, RIPPED/SHREDDED. Puts a lot of work in in the gym and on the track instead of SLOGGING countless miles.
And all you guys have to offer are decade old allegations about drug use? That guy is a beast, simple as that. Hard work and dedication.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
I would match race Ben any day, but he knows I might beat him. I could muster an 11.5/11.6 for that race for sure!
I see a letsrun.com dream 100m taking shape:
Sprintgeezer
Johnson 1.0
Cam Levins [blocks optional]
Galen Rupp [blocks optional]
Mo Farah [12.9 - provisional]
maybe coach d gets a lane?
Give me a lane, these jokers are getting smoked.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
I would match race Ben any day, but he knows I might beat him. I could muster an 11.5/11.6 for that race for sure!
I was waiting for you to say it!
~11.5--and distance people here should realize that this is with a 10m flying start (add 1 second to get a real 100m time). I ran 7.4 indoors for 60m on a non-mondo track, and what I saw there would frankly not be much competition. Willie Gault would kill him, and he might not even beat Mary Cain (in a flying 100). I'd love to race him, though, just so I could tell everybody that I beat Ben Johnson.
But since he is not allowed to run in real competition, he's probably "training" just for fitness, and you don't know how hard he was trying. I have to believe that Ben, in real training, is capable of going quite a bit faster than what is effectively a 12.5 100m from blocks.
I think, though, that the Canadians are doing some good stuff in trying to build a track league and make the sport more interesting. We're considering both football 40y and a (juried) slam dunk contest to add to meets we host next year, and a pro-am 4X1 is something to consider.
dkny64 wrote:
I see a letsrun.com dream 100m taking shape:
Sprintgeezer
Johnson 1.0
Cam Levins [blocks optional]
Galen Rupp [blocks optional]
Mo Farah [12.9 - provisional]
maybe coach d gets a lane?
What I really, really want:
Dempsey Indoors, 60m FAT...
Galen Rupp on one side
The Rich Froning on the other side (you know, that Crossfit champion who "sprints" a 60+ second 400).
truth or consequences wrote:
* wrote:Since Ben is banned for life did his appearance at the meet contaminate the entire meet, making all results unofficial?
Geez, that's a damn good question.
This was just an unofficial, fun celebrity run off, not a sanctioned meet. So no.
You're wrong about this not being a sanctioned meet. This is the Toronto International, part of the National Track League in Canada. Walter Dix has run in one of the NTL meets (Aileen Meagher) twice. Lerone Clarke ran in this meet. Usain Bolt was scheduled to run in this meet last year (but pulled, I think due to injury).
This is very definitely a sanctioned meet. But not an official event (listed as an exhibition, which I believe is the only way Ben can compete in Canada).
Is Ben officially banned for life by the IAAF (so the contamination rule applies everywhere) or only banned for life in Canada?
Xfit_guy_the_real_one_1 wrote:
... And all you guys have to offer are decade old allegations about drug use? ... .
Except they're not simply "allegations", are they? Unlike most LRC posts.
Maybe X_fit guy gets a lane in the letsrun.com Dream 100m as well.
btw, is that really true about Rich Froning not be able to break 60 for 400m?
Banned for life by the IAAF
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/5/newsid_2515000/2515379.stm
March 5, 1993
The disgraced Olympic sprinter, Ben Johnson, has been banned from athletics for life after failing a drugs test for a second time.
The International Amateur Athletics Federations (IAAF) announced the ban after a meeting in Paris.
d--
Isn't Willie injured right now? Healthy, heck yeah, he would smoke all of us.
I'm going up there in a couple of months, maybe I'll congratulate Ben on a great anchor, lol
I always love going back there, I haven't been in a couple of years.
coach d wrote:
You're wrong about this not being a sanctioned meet. This is the Toronto International, part of the National Track League in Canada. Walter Dix has run in one of the NTL meets (Aileen Meagher) twice. Lerone Clarke ran in this meet. Usain Bolt was scheduled to run in this meet last year (but pulled, I think due to injury).
This is very definitely a sanctioned meet. But not an official event (listed as an exhibition, which I believe is the only way Ben can compete in Canada).
Is Ben officially banned for life by the IAAF (so the contamination rule applies everywhere) or only banned for life in Canada?
Bolt ran in that meet in 2009.
To other posters, Ben said he was given two weeks notice, so he hadn't been specifically training for this.
Not sure why that video's labelled 2 for 2. It's the same race from a different camera.
The Red Panda wrote:
And here's Ben in a 2nd race:
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250524-2013-Toronto-International-Track-Field-Games-NTL-2/video/714035-M-4x100-F01pro-am-PRO-AM-Ben-Johnson-goes-2-for-2
Six questions for Ben from the Toronto Star.
Ben "received a standing ovation".
I told you guys that he was, and still is, a hero--not only to many Canadians, but to many around the world.
He says he was surprised by the ovation, but I'm not.
He is a living legend. Everywhere I've gone in the world, when people find out that I do hack sprinting and that I'm originally from Canada, they want to know if I have ever met Ben.
I see a letsrun.com dream 100m taking shape:
Sprintgeezer
Johnson 1.0
Cam Levins [blocks optional]
Galen Rupp [blocks optional]
Mo Farah [12.9 - provisional]
maybe coach d gets a lane?
How could you possibly omit SHREDDED, RIPPED XFitguy...?
If Ben Johnson was supposedly an amazingly talented runner who was also a hard worker and I think everyone can see was also taking all sorts of steroids how is it that a guy can run more than 2/10 of a second faster than that guy and be considered a clean athlete?