Ben Saarel over Bernie Montoya again in Mt Sac mile. 54-mid last lap

woulda coulda wrote:

and webb closed in 55.1 in his 3:53.4.....point is and still stands, that in a MILE race, 54.3 is the fastest that has been done. not the fastest that COULD'VE been done. as you were...

what a stupid statement

1) I simply pointed out that a 54 point in a 4:08 race is not as impressive as some have made it out to be, sorry if that somehow bothered you

2) Webb ran on a synthetic track, had rabbits in the opening laps, and had people with him to chase on the last lap (i.e., not as impressive of a close as ryun)

Webb's finish was better than either saarel or montoya, but not as good as Ryun's was.

jjjjjjj wrote:

and what's going on there at drake hs with two guys, unrelated, placing well in 4:13/15 (and with a Redwood HS runner in between)! Drake never had such a strong program when I was running in Marin County. Drake had a 9:39 guy my senior year and Redwood would occasionally have a sub 4:20 guy (their record for 2M was a strong 8:53 from, I think, the late 1970s, Rod Berry).

Rod Berry is currently coaching at Drake HS.

someone had to do it wrote:

As a high school student Jim Ryun ran the last lap of a 3:58.3 mile in about 55.7 seconds. He did this on a very chewed up dirt track (I have a high res picture of the finish). He also led every step of the way and had no one close to him to push him. It was a high school only race.

It was a good track, fast but cinders, the same type that he trained on. The last lap was 56.0. I ran my fastest 440 in high school on that track.

Were you there for the race? I had issue of the Wichita Eagle with the finish of the race, but someone stole it from me. It was an awesome photo. Ryun finished into a sea of people cheering him on.