Recognizer of Hilarity wrote:
Wait, wait. Did you just tell someone that they should move to a different country because they expressed an opinion that you did not like? Oh yeah, and you used the (obviously inapplicable) First Amendment about freedom of speech to justify your position.
I could not make this stuff up if I tried. You leave me (nearly) speechless. Yours has to be some sort of record for absurdity on the LRC boards.
Fixed. I guess I was laughing too hard the first time.
David Monti. wrote:
I was badly quoted out of context, and e-mailed the reporter to complain about it. I scolded her for trying to draw any kind of line between somebody who was mad about something relatively trivial (like not getting picked up at the airport), and committing a horrible crime. That's ridiculous. The reporter wouldn't budge and left the quote in her story. I won't speak with her again.
Live and learn... David
There is thing called a telephone, try using it sometime. No reporter is going to change a damn thing because of some weak a$$ email.
Recognizer of Hilarity wrote:
Fixed. I guess I was laughing too hard the first time.
Glad I could make you laugh.
I referenced the first amendment and used hyperbole to point out that freedom of speech is ingrained in the American culture.
It's absurd to say that Nick Symmonds should not speak out on a subject because it doesn't conform to how a poster on the LetsRun forum thinks an elite T&F athlete should behave.
webfoot wrote:
Recognizer of Hilarity wrote:Fixed. I guess I was laughing too hard the first time.
Glad I could make you laugh.
I referenced the first amendment and used hyperbole to point out that freedom of speech is ingrained in the American culture.
It's absurd to say that Nick Symmonds should not speak out on a subject because it doesn't conform to how a poster on the LetsRun forum thinks an elite T&F athlete should behave.
Oh no you don't.
Here is the post to which you responded:
"sometimes I wish that Nick Symmonds would just shut up and run. The guy has a mouth on him, he loves to run it in front of the media and "make waves" as Andrew Wheating put it.
His defense of Oscar isn't even about Oscar. It's about ballooning nick's ego and putting himself in the limelight again."
Nothing about "how an elite T&F athlete should behave." Just some people wish some others would STFU. That's all.
My own opinion is that Symmonds speaking out and making waves is fantastic for the sport and takes a good deal of personal courage. So I have very high regards for him. But I understand that others have different opinions - including the "he should just STFU" crowd.
Recognizer of Hilarity wrote:Oh no you don't.
Here is the post to which you responded:
"sometimes I wish that Nick Symmonds would just shut up and run. The guy has a mouth on him, he loves to run it in front of the media and "make waves" as Andrew Wheating put it.
His defense of Oscar isn't even about Oscar. It's about ballooning nick's ego and putting himself in the limelight again."
Nothing about "how an elite T&F athlete should behave." Just some people wish some others would STFU. That's all.
Disingenuous: not genuinely sincere; giving a false impression of sincerity or simplicity
it seems to me that if you freak about something trivial that could certainly mean that you would be more likely to committ a horrible crime. why wouldnt it? if you go nuts cuz ur car isnt there what are you going to do if your girlfriend dumps you or sees some other guy?
Again, another thread that just be deleted
The process on here continues , irresponsible posting on thins no one knows one shit about
Symmonds only commented on his own experiences with the guy
He is guilty until proven innocent and lets get some more guns , seriously?
I just want to indicate that Oscar appeared on Pierce Morgan recently and indicated that he keeps a 9mm by his bedside to protect against burglars etc...
I wonder if there is someone out there who watched the program and did not like Oscar. Used this information.. gained access to his home and shot his girlfriend framing Oscar
What do you think about that?????
You are f'ing kidding right? He lives in a compound that has guards and video recording everyone who enters and exits.
Why are there so many OP apologists on here? I am one who hung around OP in Europe and in US and while the guy seemed cool I did witness a certain attitude from him especially to those who worked for him that was less than proper although certainly nothing to make one think something like this would occur.
I have been around a few high strung, narcissitic track athletes as well as many NFL, NBA and MLB guys and while I am fairly shocked OP is in this situation I would not at all be surprised at many I just alluded to. All these guys seem great in public but behind closed doors a complete 180 WTF personality change.
Watch for Symmonds to do something just as stupid some day.
You are f'ing kidding right? wrote:
You are f'ing kidding right? He lives in a compound that has guards and video recording everyone who enters and exits.
Why are there so many OP apologists on here? I am one who hung around OP in Europe and in US and while the guy seemed cool I did witness a certain attitude from him especially to those who worked for him that was less than proper although certainly nothing to make one think something like this would occur.
I have been around a few high strung, narcissitic track athletes as well as many NFL, NBA and MLB guys and while I am fairly shocked OP is in this situation I would not at all be surprised at many I just alluded to. All these guys seem great in public but behind closed doors a complete 180 WTF personality change.
An interesting article on this problem of sports celebrity idolatry:
(...)
Sportsmen often get imbued with undeserved moral virtue – part of an aeons-old tendency to conflate physical prowess and external attractiveness with inner goodness.
In reality, though, they often do much to counter this perception. South African sportsmen have a particularly bad track record when it comes to violence against women. Cricketer Makhaya Ntini was found guilty of rape in 1999, though the conviction was overturned on appeal. Springbok Percy Montgomery spent a night in the lock-up in 2009, after his wife laid an assault charge against him, subsequently withdrawn. James Small, a 1995 World Cup winner, was outed as a wife-beater by the father of his former fiancée Christina Storm, who claimed to Fair Lady in 2001 that Small beat Storm “at least half a dozen times”. His compadre James Dalton also had his day in court in 2007, charged with having tried to drown his wife.
These incidents make news – unlike countless others – because of the public profile of the men involved. But there’s no sense that they are particularly career-limiting for the men involved. South Africa is famously sports-crazy, and the adulation meted out to successful sporting personalities seems to result in a high degree of immunity. Sportsmen are also prized on some level because they are the “manliest” men, in a country where aggressive, testosterone-driven masculinity is rewarded in arenas from schools to boardrooms to bedrooms.
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webfoot wrote:
Recognizer of Hilarity wrote:Oh no you don't.Here is the post to which you responded:
"sometimes I wish that Nick Symmonds would just shut up and run. The guy has a mouth on him, he loves to run it in front of the media and "make waves" as Andrew Wheating put it.
His defense of Oscar isn't even about Oscar. It's about ballooning nick's ego and putting himself in the limelight again."
Nothing about "how an elite T&F athlete should behave." Just some people wish some others would STFU. That's all.
Disingenuous: not genuinely sincere; giving a false impression of sincerity or simplicity
Moronic: Of or relating to the words or actions of a moron.
nyorker 158.3 wrote:
We never know anyone do we, even our sons/daughters and spouses. That's my thought.
Symmmonds said something like that in the NY Daily News.
“Oscar is one of the most mild-mannered, nicest, down-to-earth guys I’ve met. It kind of blows my mind,”
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/pistorius-case-shocking-track-world-article-1.1264994I think Nick comes off as a bit of a west-coaster. You know "everything is cool, let's smoke some ganja". Monti comes off as "all knowing" after the fact.
"A bit of a west coaster"
What a stupid mean nothing comment.
David Monti. wrote:
I was badly quoted out of context, and e-mailed the reporter to complain about it. I scolded her for trying to draw any kind of line between somebody who was mad about something relatively trivial (like not getting picked up at the airport), and committing a horrible crime. That's ridiculous. The reporter wouldn't budge and left the quote in her story. I won't speak with her again.
Live and learn... David
I should have told you that you can't get things off the internet once they are there.
DM? What a f u c k i n g Mormon!
Roid Rage wrote:
Watch for Symmonds to do something just as stupid some day.
"Stupid?"