Letsmeme wrote:
http://m.quickmeme.com/meme/3stjci/
Where the hell did you get that pic? Where is that? i don't recognize that stadium.
Where is weldon?
Letsmeme wrote:
http://m.quickmeme.com/meme/3stjci/
Where the hell did you get that pic? Where is that? i don't recognize that stadium.
Where is weldon?
Someone posted it under one of the meme threads yesterday and reposted it in a thread I started today asking for that pic. Both threads have been deleted but not before we got the pic memed :) muah ha ha haaaa!
rojo wrote:
Letsmeme wrote:http://m.quickmeme.com/meme/3stjci/Where the hell did you get that pic? Where is that? i don't recognize that stadium.
Where is weldon?
LetsRun.com wrote:
Here is our recap:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/02/robby-andrews-just-misses-american-indoor-1000-mark/We have equated today's run to a 1:46.02 for 800 and 3:37.91 for 1,500.
It should be pointed out that 1 year after Krmmenacker ran that time that Robby almost took out, he beat Kipketer to win World Indoors.
Me thinks Robby's getting ready to smoke somebody soon.
what's a flotrack?
coach d wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:Here is our recap:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/02/robby-andrews-just-misses-american-indoor-1000-mark/We have equated today's run to a 1:46.02 for 800 and 3:37.91 for 1,500.
It should be pointed out that 1 year after Krmmenacker ran that time that Robby almost took out, he beat Kipketer to win World Indoors.
Me thinks Robby's getting ready to smoke somebody soon.
Oh he's getting ready to smoke someone.
But maybe not smoke someone named Solomon.
Realization wrote:
Hopefully this shows Robbie and Vig that he is not a Miler, or even a 1500 guy.
Why duck the big boys to run a not often raced distance nobody cares about ?
turd vent wrote:That puts him around 2:15, maybe 2:14 high outdoors.
ncaa app gives a 2'17.90i as
2'16.02
if he ran that outdoors, it woud get him 3rd on the weak american list
1. 2:13.9 Rick Wohlhuter USA 23.12.48 1 Oslo 30.07.1974
2. 2:15.97 David Krummenacker USA 24.05.75 1 Portland 18.05.2002
3. 2:16.1 Tom Byers USA 12.04.55 1 København 06.08.1981
4. 2:16.18 Bernard Lagat USA 12.12.74 1 Gateshead 31.08.2008
5. 2:16.3 James Robinson USA 27.08.54 2 København 06.08.1981
6. 2:16.35 Nick Symmonds USA 30.12.83 3 Eugene 03.07.2010
7. 2:16.40 Steve Scott USA 05.05.56 2 Nice 23.08.1981
8. 2:16.54 Jim Spivey USA 07.03.60 2 Eugene 21.07.1984
9. 2:16.68 Steve Holman USA 02.03.70 5 Rieti 05.09.1999
10. 2:16.7 John Marshall USA 05.11.63 2 Paris 13.07.1985
11. 2:16.90 David Mack USA 30.05.61 2 Edinburgh 23.07.1985
quite honestly, with depth of american 800 running ( & considering wohl was a mid-1'43 guy ), the 5th on that list shoudn't be slower than 2'15
just shows what a poorly/under raced event the 1k is compared to 800
So now he has both the HSR and AR in the 1000.
People who don't even run care about the 1000 because it's a commonly used unit of measurement, like the mile. I think it also takes a well balanced runner. Who besides Webb or Ryun could have outrun R W that day? It's an old record, and I think it's underrated.
symmonds is capable of dipping into the 2'12s
that record is ole & needs to go down
i don't think it favors duane who's a 800/400 type but nick is a 800/1500 guy & shoud certainly aim to break it this year
( worth noting ryun split ~ 2'18.7 for last 1k in his 3'33wr ! on a chewed up track in 95F ! )
It's worth noting that his splits were all over the place. Out in 26 flat was too fast for someone who likes to sit and kick, followed by a 30 second lap from 400 to 600. Ideal race probably goes 27.mid each lap until 800 and then a sub 27 close for a 2:16.high
turd vent wrote:
That puts him around 2:15, maybe 2:14 high outdoors.
Nonsense. It's worth 2:17.9. This conversion crap from indoors to out is just an excuse for people to.exaggerate the abilities of their athletes. There is no way a modern indoor track is 3 seconds slower than outdoor. A high 2:14 would put him somewhere in the all time top 15 OUTDOORS! He ain't that good. This time of year an athlete would almost certainly run slower over distances of 800 plus outdoors compared to indoors, unless running in the summer of the southern hemisphere. Even then, Andrews wouldn't have run 2:14 on an Australian track in perfect conditions yesterday.
There is no wind indoors, it is warm and the issue of drafting is less important. Andrews may one day run a 2:14 high outdoors at the peak of summer, but a 2:17.90 indoors in Feb doees not equate to 2:14 high whatever some conversion chart states.
His run is worth about a 1:46 800, indoors or out, which is good form for Feb. That is about all that can be deduced from that performance.
ventolin^3 wrote:
symmonds is capable of dipping into the 2'12s
that record is ole & needs to go down
i don't think it favors duane who's a 800/400 type but nick is a 800/1500 guy & shoud certainly aim to break it this year
( worth noting ryun split ~ 2'18.7 for last 1k in his 3'33wr ! on a chewed up track in 95F ! )
If Kaki, with a superior 800 pb and a vastly superior 1500 pb, can't break 2:13 after several wr attempts, there is no way Summoned, even in London 2012 form is going to run 2:12. I doubt he would even break Wohlhuter's US record. A peak 1:43 mid Wohlhuter from the 70' s would have been very close if not equal to symmonds on the super fast London track.
Video:
He probably could've gotten the record if that second pacer (was he a pacer? I couldn't tell) hadn't run such a slow 800-1000.
Wait, following the logic from the Rupp thread recently, they both ran 2:17. So I guess he actually has the American record, tied with DK. Right?
deanouk wrote:Nonsense. It's worth 2:17.9. This conversion crap from indoors to out is just an excuse for people to.exaggerate the abilities of their athletes. There is no way a modern indoor track is 3 seconds slower than outdoor
moron
only a complete idiot believes an indoor run is as fast as an outdoor
the concept of basic rotational physics is too hard for your peabrain to grasp ???
we have examples of kip/hicham/komen/kennster all running much faster outdoors than indoors in same season
one of my personal favorites :
borza ran 1'44.15i in '01, 3rd fastest run ever & at once anyone with a clue thought that was indicated something damn quick as an outdoor run
the app gives it as
1'42.68
what did he run ???
1'42.47
This time of year an athlete would almost certainly run slower over distances of 800 plus outdoors compared to indoors
idiot
that is not always the case
There is no wind indoors, it is warm and the issue of drafting is less important
& more than enough to counteract is the huge factor of double the centripetal force
Andrews may one day run a 2:14 high outdoors at the peak of summer, but a 2:17.90 indoors in Feb doees not equate to 2:14 high whatever some conversion chart states
the poster didn't state any chart, just an opinion
His run is worth about a 1:46 800, indoors or out, which is good form for Feb. That is about all that can be deduced from that performance.
moron
a guide used by most indicates, the iaaf tables gives
2'17.90i as
1'46.45i
& outdoors
1'44.49
2'14.87
the outdoor valuations can be argued for exact accuracy, but iaaf do not believe outdoor runs are the same clocking value as indoors
deanouk wrote:If Kaki, with a superior 800 pb and a vastly superior 1500 pb, can't break 2:13 after several wr attempts, there is no way Summoned, even in London 2012 form is going to run 2:12
no
kaki had listed pbs of 1'42.23 & 3'39.71 when he ran his 2'13.90pb
he had no 1500 background worth bothering with
his 1500 breakthru was the next year with 3'31.76 when he'd obviously trained very hard for it & still went 1'43.13
'11 wouda been shape for a 2'12, but he didn't run a 1k
symmonds has a much slower 1500pb with 3'36.04 but the big factor favoring him over-distance is that there is very little indication he's actually done any serious work for 1500 running it mostly off 800 training, whereas kaki similarly coud only go 3'39 off similar scenario, before putting in 1500 training
i don't expect symmonds to go 3'31 if he specialised in it, but definitely a 3'32/3'33 & still around 1'43-flat/low-1'43
symmonds naural over-distance endurance looks great for current guys & he can still get to 2'13.0 level off a high-1'42 & his nominal 3'36 ability
I doubt he would even break Wohlhuter's US record
drivel
wohl had 1'43.4 & 3'36pbs
not better than nick's
A peak 1:43 mid Wohlhuter from the 70' s would have been very close if not equal to symmonds on the super fast London track.
no chance
a low-1'43 maybe
the speed of that london track is over-rated
it's an iaaf certified track so it's speed is limited by law
& then the performance of aman :
he was 2nd favorite for race as indoor champ & last man to beat rudy
he ran a 1'43.40nr
but wait, shortly after, he goes to zurich & on a wet & cold night runs 1'42.53 & beats rudy
if the new london venue is a "fast track" what on earth is the many years old zurich track ???
Knob.
When Borza ran 1:44.1 indoors he would not have been at a year peak idiot. He would have been at a mini peak for the winter/indoor season, but the idea he would have run 1:42.6 outdoors on the same day he ran that indoor time is ludicrous.
It would imply that in the 4 months or so between that indoor run and his 1:42.4 outdoors, he only improved by 0.2. No one peaks or plans to peak indoors in Feb. They aim to peak in August.
A 1:44.1 indoors might indicate the potential of running 1:42.6 outdoors at the height of the summer season, but it is not equivalent to it.