honestly, why don't more runners use pre-workout supplements before a run/race?

I take carb supplements before races all the time. Some real high tech sh#t, I think they are called bananos (sp?), yellow and kind of shaped like a dong.

that is funny wrote:

jsjs wrote:

Well why don't you explain instead of using "fail"?

Do you disagree that you need carbs to run fast? Do you disagree that you need protein to recover your muscles?

Of course you need carbs and protein to run but you do not need 'supplements'. Just eat a well balanced diet.

A well balanced diet isn't always good enough. The sooner you eat after a workout, the quicker your recovery. There is a window of opportunity of about 20-45 minutes for this super recovery effect.

If it takes me 45 minutes to get home, then I've already lost the window of opportunity. Furthermore, I don't usually feel like eating a great volume of food immediately after exercise.

So a well balanced diet is not good for these purposes. A compact, high density carb/protein supplement is much better. I don't want to bring two chicken breasts, some vegetables, and a cup of milk to the track with me everyday.

Junk Master wrote:

Creatine/beta-alanine work well for middle distances.

Creatine may or may not be effective but you'd have to take it over a period of time and not just in the hours before a race.

There's a big downside though. You'll almost certainly gain 3 or 4 pounds which could cost you more than 10 seconds per mile.

My pre-race supplements:

2 hours before a race I'll eat oatmeal and drink a coffee.

45 minutes before the start I'll eat some fruit.

The rest of my pre-race routine consists of porta-potty repeats.

I've tried 5 Hour energy route but it makes me feel sick.

jsjs wrote:

Well why don't you explain instead of using "fail"?

Do you disagree that you need carbs to run fast? Do you disagree that you need protein to recover your muscles?

your two asinine questions have absolutely nothing to do with anything I've posted.

that's about as much an explanation I can give because anything would be over your head owing to your propensity for simply making sh!t up when you don't understand what you're reading.

twwwwwww wrote:

jsjs wrote:

Well why don't you explain instead of using "fail"?

Do you disagree that you need carbs to run fast? Do you disagree that you need protein to recover your muscles?

your two asinine questions have absolutely nothing to do with anything I've posted.

that's about as much an explanation I can give because anything would be over your head owing to your propensity for simply making sh!t up when you don't understand what you're reading.

I don't think you know what propensity means

Muscle Milk is probably Ryan Hall's downfall. You can't continually drink that stuff all the time and expect to be healthy in the long run.

jsjs wrote:

I don't think you know what propensity means

Haha!

What an awesome way to showcase your ignorance once again!

Next time just use a dictionary before proving my point.

sub2half wrote:

I believe that any stimulant will work. Do you just not realize how much it'd help?

I understand that some institutions have limits, but why don't you consume whatever amount puts you under the limit?

They do. It's called McDonalds.

so using say vitamin b12 for energy, or silk amino acids for energy won't help at all?

Exactly. They are useless.

sub2half wrote:

so using say vitamin b12 for energy, or silk amino acids for energy won't help at all?

jsjs wrote:

that is funny wrote:

Of course you need carbs and protein to run but you do not need 'supplements'. Just eat a well balanced diet.

A well balanced diet isn't always good enough. The sooner you eat after a workout, the quicker your recovery. There is a window of opportunity of about 20-45 minutes for this super recovery effect.

If it takes me 45 minutes to get home, then I've already lost the window of opportunity. Furthermore, I don't usually feel like eating a great volume of food immediately after exercise.

So a well balanced diet is not good for these purposes. A compact, high density carb/protein supplement is much better. I don't want to bring two chicken breasts, some vegetables, and a cup of milk to the track with me everyday.

You don't have to eat a large volume of calories right after your run for God's sake. An after run snack that has the right combo of carbs and protein CAN BE a part of your overall healthy diet. It does not have to be a supplement.

You certainly don't need supplements before an easy run.

What would be the benefits of supplementing before a workout other than you may run a little faster?

You're missing the point. A supplement is a much easier form of carbs and protein. Also, the protein profile is more balanced. I don't know why you're so anti-supplement. It's just a convenience. There's nothing wrong with it.

And yes for God's sake you do need to eat a lot right after your run sometimes. Especially for the super recovery aspect and in preparation for another run later that day.

Not to mention, taking ANY supplement you think works WILL work. Do not discount the placebo effect.

Cocaine.

jsjs wrote:

that is funny wrote:

You don't have to eat a large volume of calories right after your run for God's sake. An after run snack that has the right combo of carbs and protein CAN BE a part of your overall healthy diet. It does not have to be a supplement.

You're missing the point. A supplement is a much easier form of carbs and protein. Also, the protein profile is more balanced. I don't know why you're so anti-supplement. It's just a convenience. There's nothing wrong with it.

And yes for God's sake you do need to eat a lot right after your run sometimes. Especially for the super recovery aspect and in preparation for another run later that day.

Link please

propensity

pro·pen·si·ty   [pruh-pen-si-tee]

noun, plural pro·pen·si·ties.

1.

a natural inclination or tendency: a propensity to drink too much.

2.

Obsolete . favorable disposition or partiality.

I have heard great things from endurance athletes and BCAA's. I have read several reviews on Endurance BCAA plus by iron man competitors, long distance runners and cyclist. Not sure but looking at the ingredient panel there is nothing that would lead me to believe one would test positive under any testing sanction.