a little bit like Semenya?
a little bit like Semenya?
Nobody ever seems gets the joke when I say I'm training to beat the women's 800 meter record.
How could anyone not see it? There is something seriously messed up with that oversized jaw.
Though cadaveric growth hormone was around at her time, it was not really used as a performance enhancer. Steroids were big, and epo was not even a thought. Clitoromegaly (that's fun to say), facial hair growth, and deepening of the voice would be more indicative of drugs abused on JarKratch's era. In fact, growth hormone nowadays doesn't necessarily even cause the untoward side effects that one might associate with excess exogenous GH (to include acromegalic type symptoms of an enlarged jaw), due to the fact that is synthesized, rather than extracted from cadaver pituitaries. Good day.
Why is there a video of Clint Eastwood on a thread about the women's 800m WR holder?[quote]Cash and money is what I expec wrote:
Does that mean Fred Gwynne used HGH?
I was in the tunnel at the Meadowlands (NJ) in the mid-1980's at the indoor meet they put on in February, and at one point was sitting on a bench a few feet away from Jarmila and took a good look at her. She and Maricica Puica were the most masculine-looking women I had ever seen in my life. By contrast, she actually looks female in the recent video.
I think secretly she may be a woman.
This jaw stuff is getting ridiculous-
Were a bunch of kingdoms in Europe ruled by doping monarchs?
Or is it normal human variation?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prognathism
I'm not saying whether Kratochvilova doped or not. Odds are she did based on when she run, who she ran for, the times she ran, and her mannish physique, but that's still not proof.
But the idea that you can spot dopers from their jaw is just silly.
Wow. I used hgh for a full year. No big jaw, although I lost a lot of fat and could go hard 4 days a wk. but seriously, you are retarded.
I watched the race where she ran 47.99, did any one else notice how many white girls were in the race? I mean close to her. Drugs or not I'd be interested to see if we could get white women (not being racist here) to run that fast now. What happened that black women (and men) started dominating the sport? I mean completely dominating.......
Jillinhall wrote:
Wow. I used hgh for a full year... could go hard 4 days a wk.
That's quite a side effect. Don't you know you're supposed to call your doctor if it even lasts 4 hours?
Any medical doctors on letsrun who can confirm that is an hgh jaw???
Mr. V wrote:
What happened that black women (and men) started dominating the sport? I mean completely dominating.......
The USA started doping better than the Communists did. And USA sprinters are traditionally black.
Lately Jamaicans started doping better than the Americans, and Jamaicans are traditionally black too.
If the Chinese start doping their sprinters best, then there will be a bunch of Asians dominating sprints.
HGH jaw?
That doesn't make any sense.
Can someone explain the jaw thing to me? Does HGH really make the jaw bone grow bigger and if so why? Also I have heard that needing braces can be linked to doping. Is this true and because of the HGH thing with the jaw?
HGH increases the size of the jaw, but in an unusual way. It increases the length of the Ramus, which is the segment from the "condyle" (in front of the ear) down to the "angle", or the 90 degree turn. Although it causes an underbite, It gives the unusual look seen in people with acromegaly. Oddly enough, you see a similar look in most of the bodybuilders in the Mr. Olympia contest, where the jaw jets out, but mainly due to the lengthened ramus. People with Turners syndrome (low growth hormone) have opposite look, with a small lower jaw caused by a short Ramus.
Weren't Chinese women athletes on systematic doping back in the early 1990s, they dominated middle & long distance but not the sprints,so they would never have been interested with a Chinese dubbed fastest male / female in the World despite all the PR & propaganda that would result. Isn't Liu Xiang a national treasure in China ? The "communist" females were competitive and dominant in the sprint but not the males despite the fact they were also on the gear as shows their domination in throwing events (didn't the IAAF had to redesign the javelin in mid 1980s because athletes were beginning to throw a little too far ? ).Bear in mind that hormonal doping is also more effecient on females than males hence the difference between let's say, East German males (who were struggling against their competition in Europe ) & females, however as soon one particular american female began to use the same pharmaceutical tricks, she made a mockery of her "communist" competition.
Bad Wiggins wrote:
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The USA started doping better than the Communists did. And USA sprinters are traditionally black.
Lately Jamaicans started doping better than the Americans, and Jamaicans are traditionally black too.
If the Chinese start doping their sprinters best, then there will be a bunch of Asians dominating sprints.
There were some good East German male sprinters in the late 70s, early 80s though
Paul Ryan wrote:
There were some good East German male sprinters in the late 70s, early 80s though
They were absolutely nowhere near the level of performance displayed by their medal winning female counterparts though .That's the difference between "good" and "dominating".