Trey Hardee vs. Rich Froning

if you're going to troll, at least try to not be obvious about it

Roy's point is spot on.

Here is my challenge...

30sec Power Clean for reps (135lb)

50m sled push (315lb)

20ft wall climb

200m shuttle run (50m splits)

50m Farmers Walk (150lb buckets)

30sec Hang Snatch for reps (95lb)

400m Run

There you go... I just created the ultimate crossfit test! As easy as that!

Lighten up Francis wrote:

Froning has won two world championships. Just because it's not in your sport doesn't mean it didn't happen. Crossfitters haven't won Olympic medals because their chosen sport isn't an Olympic sport. The greatest football players in the world haven't won any medals either. All of these athletes are great at what they do, why do runners have such a hard time with that?

What I meant to say was... The crossfit enthusiasts on this forum continue to make claims that crossfit athletes would be dominate in other sports that they have not specifically trained for. And I am asking, if it is that simpley, why havent they?

Too much fame and fortune in crossfit?

Skeptic4 wrote:

What I meant to say was... The crossfit enthusiasts on this forum continue to make claims that crossfit athletes would be dominate in other sports that they have not specifically trained for. And I am asking, if it is that simpley, why havent they?

Too much fame and fortune in crossfit?

The crossfit games made it to big tv and sponsorship after not existing for that long. The prize purse is something like a million dollars for the crossfit games. There are multiple clubs/teams in every major city. They have a very popular website(s). They even have ESPN-type analysts and coverage (this is pretty sweet. Why do we not have tv analysts for running?).

Crossfit and track are not better nor worse than each other. But you have to admit, Crossfit is being run a lot more fun than USATF/IAAFs style (no tv analysts????).

I would guess that Crossfit pays ESPN to show their competition. Does USATF pay to have their meets shown on TV?

Just 3

o.O wrote:

If a crossfit athlete could compete at a high level in the Deca there would be a lot more Crossfit guys at the Olympic trials attempting it. The Trials wouldn't interfere with their training or any notable events in the CrossFit competition schedule.

The Olympic Trials are right in the middle of the CrossFit Games, aren't they? It's not a one weekend event. Their are a series of qualifying rounds during the month or two leading to the finals.

NBC pays for exclusive rights to air the Olympic Trials. The difference in the Olympic trials/ US Championships vs. crossfit is that the crossfit championships pay the winners.

USATF has event sponsors (hence why they do not want athletes to have their own sponsors to compete with them), and they sell the rights for the TV. But the USA Champion does not get anything but a qualifying spot for worlds or in a year there is no worlds, they get self pride....

Feb 22- Mar 25, The Open

Apr 27- May 27, The Regionals

Jul 13-15, CrossFit Games

Olympic Trials- June 21 - July 1, 2012

So no, if Rich or any other Athlete wanted to try their hand at the Deca they could have.

But if you seriously think Rich would stack Javelin/pole vault/100m Hurdles practice with his numerous lifting routines just to attempt to beat Bryan Clay, Trey Hardee and Ashton Eaton you're crazy.

During Pendleton 2(swim 700m,Bike8km,run11km) 2:06:00.0

Chad Mckay 1:57:33.0 was first in the section.

What kind of event is the chipper

10 overhead squat

10 box jump

10 fat bar thruster

10 power clean

10 toes-to-bar

10 burpee muscle-up

10 toes-to-bar

10 power clean

10 fat bar thruster

10 box jump

10 overhead squat

How that translates to throwing a Javelin over 60m is beyond me, but I doubt Rich would be able to compete at a beyond collegiate level at the Decathlon, while instead he is the best CrossFit "competitor" alive.

Horsrsh!t !

Froning was a mediocre baseball player if you're comparing competetive sports.

Decathletes train in multiple events throughout the day, just like your "WADs"!

Guaranteed too that Hardee doesn't get reduced to a walk like your Worlds Fittest Athletes did last week in the opening Tri event.

Might also want to check out what Poliquin has noticed about elite athletes. Pole Vaulters as he has noted typically pick up other sports better, more quickly than any other athlete.

Instead of Kool-aide...you've got to much Progenix poisoning your brain.

And I hate to burst your bubble but I personally know a top-20 placer who actually doesn't even do heavy squats or deadlifts. Essentially just throws in some snatches and Romanian deadlifts into his routine of power-bodybuilding-esque split training and running.

Your a boss my friend. My thoughts exactly.

For the life of me I cant understand why they haven't invented the Macquartermilefieldgoalwordjumble. I destroy mcnuggets, run 47 for 400 and can slot a field goal from anywhere and am an absolute whiz at the word jumble. Sign me up.

Crossfit makes no money. If they could do other sports they would. They cant so they invent one. I can invent any physical activity that is 'Hard'. This doesn't mean its relevant to actual athletic performance improvements.

Crossfit is basically general conditioning. Its something you would do in the army, for the police force, perhaps mma. Its not specific to anything. The lifts are in such high volume that you aren't training specific power or anything relevant to athletic performance. Essentially by virtue of being good at 'crossfit' you are essentially diminishing your ability at any relevant sport.

Crossfit create workouts that are hard but are irrelevant. The short version is that punters can earn over a million dollars in the NFL, Crossfit earns jack sh*t. If they could do anything else well they would but they cant so they dont. BOOM

It has been reported that Rich Froning ran a sub 4 1500 before. That was not in competition (after other grueling events) but during training. So I think at least the distance stuff he would win. Also everything involving power/strength, like the throwing disciplines.

Where the decathlete would probably win is high jump/pole vault and (maybe) 110 hurdles.

Sorry, Froning hasn't run a sub 4:00 1500. He weighs 195 lbs and is one of the strongest guys in the sport. Don't make shit up just to make your argument. I know this whole thing is a troll, and I enjoy the banter, but the whole thing is ridiculous. Nobody here really believes a CF elite could compete at a high level in the decathlon. It's fun to see people freak out, nothing more. On the other hand, I do believe that a top decathlete couldn't touch Froning in the standard CF workouts. I just hope that one of these decathlete beasts reads these threads and decides to try th CF workouts just to see how he'd do.

i doubt the average crossfitter would be able to finish the 110 hurdles

This can all be solved by having Trey Hardee do FRAN….3.2.1.GO.. But seriously I watched three days of the Crossfit Games and track and field can learn something about marketing from these guys. As an ex track athlete and someone who now does Crossfit to state in shape the comparison between the two sports is insulting to track. Top Crossfit athletes were mid pack athletes in high school and college. That being said runners need to come off their high horse and look at what Crossfit is doing. They could learn a thing or two that may help grow the sport.

coach wrote:

i doubt the average crossfitter would be able to finish the 110 hurdles

You know that there are only about 10 hurdles or so, not 100. Right?

Atv4 wrote:

Crossfit is basically general conditioning. Its something you would do in the army, for the police force, perhaps mma. Its not specific to anything. The lifts are in such high volume that you aren't training specific power or anything relevant to athletic performance. Essentially by virtue of being good at 'crossfit' you are essentially diminishing your ability at any relevant sport.

Crossfit create workouts that are hard but are irrelevant. The short version is that punters can earn over a million dollars in the NFL, Crossfit earns jack sh*t. If they could do anything else well they would but they cant so they dont. BOOM

1. Crossfit guys make as much or more than runners (and running has been around for much longer).

2. Crossfit doesn't only do high volume reps. They do low volume too. But if high volume is so irrelevant and diminishes athletic performance, then what does that say about distance running? The training by nature is high volume. I think you don't know what you're talking about.

Xfitter than fit wrote:

coach wrote:

i doubt the average crossfitter would be able to finish the 110 hurdles

You know that there are only about 10 hurdles or so, not 100. Right?

The race is 110 meters dumb ass