So Justin Gatlin runs just as fast "off" drugs...?

BadgerMiles wrote:

The long term effects of doping are something that needs to be considered when the bans are set. When he was doping he genetically enhanced his muscles, that stuff doesn't just go away when you stop juicing. The benefits are still there as he was able to develop his muscles better and faster than those who don't dope so he still has a better opportunity to succeed because, even tho he may not be juicing, he still was able to develop his muscles better.

He should be banned forever, because the effects still aid him to this day.

Sounds like you know more about the long term effects of doping than the cadre of WADA PHd scienctist...please publish your analysis. To the best of my knowldege, the effects of any chemical in the body loses it's efect over time. If it was as simple as you say, every young sprinter would dope, get the benefits and then stop before they turn pro. (Just keeping it real!) Also, is it possible that Gatlin is running no faster than he would have if he had never doped; from memory, Gatlin ran 10 flat when he was only 20 years old. Is it possible that he running what he is truely capable of?

Have you ever heard of this concept called redemption as in make a mistake, pay a price for your mistake and move on. History and religious teachings are full of stories of redemption. Did you know that one of the most revered figures in Christianity is Paul, who use to kill Christians?

Perhaps Gatlin is showing young sprinters some valuable lessons in how horribe if can be if you cheat and that you can be good with out cheating. - Unless you think Gatlin did not suffer or perhaps you are crazy enough to think he is still cheating.

maladoperdancoochie wrote:

Sprinting is far more debilitating than distance running. Sprinters live and race on the knife edge of fitness and disaster. Tyson Gay is an example who slips over and back regularly.

Yeah, it's a good thing distance runners rarely get injured.

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maladoperdancoochie wrote:

Sprinting is far more debilitating than distance running. Sprinters live and race on the knife edge of fitness and disaster. Tyson Gay is an example who slips over and back regularly.

Yeah, it's a good thing distance runners rarely get injured.

Nowhere did he say that distance runners do not get injured. He is just saying that sprinters are closer to the edge of injury more often than distance guys. Overall, I could buy that. Of course you could use examples like Fernandez or Dathan to bolster the distance side but it seems like sprinters are about to rip a hammy with every step they take when racing.

TrackCoach wrote:

Have you ever heard of this concept called redemption as in make a mistake, pay a price for your mistake and move on. History and religious teachings are full of stories of redemption. Did you know that one of the most revered figures in Christianity is Paul, who use to kill Christians?

I've learned to specifically avoid the NRR threads because they all eventually devolve into bible-thumpers v bible-bashers.

I understand the irony of me replying to this but can we please keep that moralist BS off of an otherwise interesting thread?