Is this the first time a Canadian distance record>U.S. distance record?

dkap wrote:

The NCAA is not limited to U.S. schools.

Dan

Simon Fraser in DII? Anyone else?

Maury Halberg. He of the withered arm and Olympic Gold Medal.

I greeted him on the Olympic grounds in Munich, and he was amazed that anyone would recognize him.

A truly modest man.

Trivial Pursuits wrote:

dkap wrote:

The NCAA is not limited to U.S. schools.

Dan

Simon Fraser in DII? Anyone else?

Yes, although I believe they have another year before being able to compete at Nationals. There are also a few Puerto Rican schools, but that's pushing the grey area. Those are the only ones I can think of.

Dan

Is McGill NCAA?

I kind of figured that Orville would show up to fill in the Bruce Kidd info. Always welcome info.

Simon Fraser University in Burnaby BC Canada and University of British Columbia in Vancouver BC both run in the NCAA

By the way Gerry Lindgren held the world Junior Records for 2 miles, 3,000 meters, 3 miles, 6 miles and 10,000 meters but he never broke Bruce Kidd's 5,000 meter World Junior Record as a Junior. At age 18, Kidd ran 13:43.8 on June 2, 1962 and Lindgren ran 13:44.0 two years later in the same meet. Lindgren went on to run 13:38.0 at age 20, 13:33.8 at age 22, and 13:38.4 at age 23.

Chased Solinsky during his American record.

Lyndon Larouche wrote:

The Canadian university system is about as competitive as DII/DIII or any major DI conference. If you are serious about university level running (regardless of where you come from) you go to the US. There are a few exceptions - Guelph being one of them.

This is the US's comparative advantage - dozens of schools which are willing to pour millions and millions of dollars into athletic programs. This does not happen anywhere else in the world on the scale you see in the US.

Let's be real about a few things:

#1 who cares? like really, even if Canada has better national records... who cares? I am a Canadian and I don't care beyond a very very very superficial level... the Canadian 'system' is quite terrible from the viewpoint of athlete development and getting kids into the sport.

#2 NCAA is a great college system... as a development system for international competition (in distance events) not so much. I believe there is a competitive running renaissance going on right now in North America, but I think this is patching up a lot of problems inherent to distance running development. I know there are a lot of very dedicated NCAA coaches who are concerned about developing athletes for the big picture, but I also know that there are some very unscrupulous coaches/programs who will burn people out over and over again for short term success. Canada piggy-backs off this system for a lot of our people and I don't think that does us a lot of good when we look at the success rate of the post-collegiate athletes.

Whoever started this thread is a moron of the first degree and was probably looking to start a dumb nationalistic argument. If the author truly believes Canada is somehow enacting a better development model which can take credit for performances of any of our people... well I'd like to hear it. We have some success stories but its a patchwork of decent club/youth development programs.

Most of Canada's distance records are > U.S. records. Remember, the bigger number is the slower time.

prometheus_bounding wrote:

Whoever started this thread is a moron of the first degree and was probably looking to start a dumb nationalistic argument. If the author truly believes Canada is somehow enacting a better development model which can take credit for performances of any of our people... well I'd like to hear it. We have some success stories but its a patchwork of decent club/youth development programs.

OR I could just be pointing out how truly UNIQUE Levins' achievement is. Just a possibility.

Try again, unique on an individual level not as a testament to our nation bud. Unless you'd like to finish your argument by suggesting why him coming from Canada is important to his success...

Levins is a phenom any way you look at it I don't care where he is from or lives. What was he a 14:19 5000 runner a year ago.

Canada has always had some great Junior runners but a 10k runner that has improved to that level that fast? And he has has closing speed for distance races. Jeff Scheibler went to Japan didn't he to get down to 27:34 and that was after college.

For this year I can't imagine Levins getting any faster. He has been on a tear straight through cross country, Indoors and hit it right now. How much better can he get after all those great races this season? At 5000/10,000? But it will be interesting to watch. If he can hold on and get 8 to 10th place in the Olympics that would be incredible and signs for another breakthrough next year.

sfasdfasdf wrote:

ben johnson? donovan bailey? STFU.

Bailey: A "Canadian" born in Jamaica who broke the WR while training for Dan Pfaff in Texas.

Now, WHICH system does that show the superiority of?

Where in my original post was there an "argument"? Drugstore out of Midol today?

Implied dude, implied...

More like "read into" by your delusional paranoia.

prometheus_bounding wrote:

Implied dude, implied...

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