toro wrote:
I could have gone negative back in the day.
14:55
30 reps at 130 pounds would be no problem
So it's a 5K race for guys who can bench their weight 30 times.
It really seems they shouldn't cap the bench at 30 reps and make it a real bi-athlon.
If you could only run 14:55 you wouldn't have broken 15 after doing 30 reps of your body weight. But let's all congratulate how awesome your glory days were anyways
It should be 2x bodyweight deadlift for reps (no straps, wraps, or belts either). Do thirty of those then race a 5k under 15. That would be badass.
PLA BIB NAME HOMETOWN AGE TIME REPS TIME
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1 59 ZACH HOLBERT CHILLICOTHE,OH M 25 16:18 30 01:18
2 638 TRAVIS PREJEAN JAMESTOWN,NY M 25 16:36 30 01:36
3 253 JOSEPH NORTON HADDON TOWNSHIP,NJ M 27 16:04 28 02:04
4 790 VAUGHAN OBRIEN WASHINGTON,DC M 36 17:12 30 02:12
5 459 ROBERT MESSMER CINCINNATI,OH M 36 17:22 30 02:22
6 128 RYAN SMITH CINCINNATI,OH M 27 17:22 29 02:52
7 97 NATHAN AICHELE WESTERVILLE,OH M 30 18:02 30 03:02
8 620 BLAIZE O'BRIEN COLUMBUS,OH M 41 18:07 30 03:07
9 240 EDDIE NEEL CHESAPEAKE,OH M 28 18:26 30 03:26
10 796 NIC AUBERT CRYSTAL LAKE,IL M 24 16:28 26 03:28
11 6 LISA VENEZIANO FENTON,MI F 47 18:46 30 03:46
12 98 SEAN JOSEPH LYNDHURST,OH M 27 18:49 30 03:49
13 189 BENJAMIN SHELLENBARGER NORTH CANTON,OH M 28 19:02 30 04:02
14 310 DAVID HOOIE DELAWARE,OH M 43 19:02 30 04:02
15 512 TJ ENRIGHT GALLOWAY,OH M 27 19:07 30 04:07
16 655 MARY KREIS BELLE VERNON,PA F 42 19:10 30 04:10
17 353 TONY KETCHMARK DAVISON,MI M 49 19:15 30 04:15
18 797 DAVID DILCHER BURR RIDGE,IL M 49 19:16 30 04:16
19 621 BRIAN BAKER GAHANNA,OH M 32 19:00 29 04:30
20 147 CHELSEY VASCURA COLUMBUS,OH F 33 19:38 30 04:38
21 250 MAURICE THOMPSON COLUMBUS,OH M 32 19:38 30 04:38
22 522 DOUG PFAU CANTON,MI M 49 19:42 30 04:42
23 545 MATT HODGES UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS,O M 24 19:55 30 04:55
24 287 JORGE VILLARREAL ARLINGTON,VA M 25 19:56 30 04:56
25 277 GEORGE MEDLER SPRING HILL,FL M 53 20:08 30 05:08
26 179 WESLEY HOLLIDAY COAL GROVE,OH M 42 20:09 30 05:09
27 73 JACK RAGLIN BLOOMINGTON,IN M 54 20:10 30 05:10
28 656 JOE FOSTER SHADYSIDE,OH M 48 19:46 29 05:16
29 84 WILL ZACHRICH FREDONIA,PA M 33 19:50 29 05:20
30 168 MARTY MOSTYN COLUMBUS,OH M 45 20:26 30 05:26
31 138 JOHN LARRIMER BEXLEY,OH M 43 20:33 30 05:33
32 26 FRED FABER NEW YORK,NY M 32 19:04 27 05:34
33 151 JAMIE REED GALENA,OH M 41 20:36 30 05:36
34 82 LARRY HANASKY BELMONT,OH M 46 20:41 30 05:41
35 544 LUCAS AYARS MECHANICSBURG,OH M 30 19:14 27 05:44
36 13 BRANDON HILL COLUMBUS,OH M 29 20:45 30 05:45
37 818 CYNTHIA MARTINSEN WILLIAMSTOWN,WV F 46 20:46 30 05:46
38 455 GEORGE TOTONCHY PORTLAND,OR M 34 20:48 30 05:48
39 442 TREVOR SUTERMASTER COLUMBUS,OH M 31 20:22 29 05:52
40 88 DAVID IRWIN BEXLEY,OH M 50 20:24 29 05:54
41 380 JOSHUA WEBB NEWARK,OH M 31 19:27 27 05:57
42 32 ANDY RUZICHO COLUMBUS,OH M 42 19:02 26 06:02
43 56 JOSEPH OLDHAM AKRON,OH M 42 21:04 30 06:04
44 453 ALLISON WENDT COLUMBUS,OH F 44 21:05 30 06:05
45 447 STEVE GEYER SOUTH PARK,PA M 35 18:12 24 06:12
46 720 PATRICK IMHOF WESTERVILLE,OH M 25 21:13 30 06:13
47 75 WILLIAM PASKETT DUBLIN,OH M 20 21:18 30 06:18
48 691 JOHN-PAUL ZEBROWSKI BRIGHTON,MI M 19 16:48 21 06:18
49 765 TYLER PENSYL COLUMBUS,OH M 31 18:23 24 06:23
50 156 JOSH DUMBAUGH CENTERVILLE,OH M 31 19:24 26 06:24
Gauging bench requirement off bodyweight is unfair to tall people as we have a higher bodyweight that isn't due to bodyfat or muscle, but excessive skeletal structure.
There is no way someone who is well over 6 feet tall will be able to do this, even if they are stronger absolutely that people who beat them. Bench should be a single weight for everyone.
Yeah let's make that weight 350lbs.
I like the envent as is.
Everyone has an opinion...My suggestion is put on one the way you think it should be done.
For the past 2 years this event sold out in less than 12 hours...why would they change anything.
Again, thanks for putting the event on!
Brian wrote:
Gauging bench requirement off bodyweight is unfair to tall people as we have a higher bodyweight that isn't due to bodyfat or muscle, but excessive skeletal structure.
There is no way someone who is well over 6 feet tall will be able to do this, even if they are stronger absolutely that people who beat them. Bench should be a single weight for everyone.
Is this fact or opinion?
How much more do tall peoples' bones weigh? Is it really a significant difference?
11th place - 47 year old woman. Lisa is a bad*ass. Great runner.
Question for the guys in-the-know: How much time after you finish the bench does the run start?
And, how much time do you think you personally lose off your 5k due to fatigue?
Brian wrote:
Gauging bench requirement off bodyweight is unfair to tall people as we have a higher bodyweight that isn't due to bodyfat or muscle, but excessive skeletal structure.
Not only that, also our arms are a lot longer, so with every rep, we do a lot more work, pushing the bar a lot higher.
Example: being 6'5" myself, my arms are approx. 6 inch longer than your average 5'5" runner. So with every rep, I go 6 inch higher than the small runner.
Or in other words - 25 of my reps are worth 30 of the small dude.
Brian wrote:
Gauging bench requirement off bodyweight is unfair to tall people as we have a higher bodyweight that isn't due to bodyfat or muscle, but excessive skeletal structure.
There is no way someone who is well over 6 feet tall will be able to do this, even if they are stronger absolutely that people who beat them. Bench should be a single weight for everyone.
Cry cry cry because some 5'5" guy actually gets an advantage over a 6" guy. It's a true fact, but come on, toss the short guys a bone. Want me to start listing all the advantages that a tall guy has in life?
TallRunner2000 wrote:
Brian wrote:Gauging bench requirement off bodyweight is unfair to tall people as we have a higher bodyweight that isn't due to bodyfat or muscle, but excessive skeletal structure.
Not only that, also our arms are a lot longer, so with every rep, we do a lot more work, pushing the bar a lot higher.
Example: being 6'5" myself, my arms are approx. 6 inch longer than your average 5'5" runner. So with every rep, I go 6 inch higher than the small runner.
Or in other words - 25 of my reps are worth 30 of the small dude.
These sound like imaginary facts.
Your reps are worth the same as a shorter guy. Stop making things up and get in better shape.
agreed, if you don't like their rules and set up don't do the event, they sold out in like 11 hours..let someone enter that likes the event they are doing...
holbythebear wrote:
Yeah let's make that weight 350lbs.
That would be impressive if that someone could finish the run.
How about a scale that takes into account height. Weight per inch of height multiplied by a constant.
I am 6'4" and have 6% bodyfat and still weigh 160. SO I have to bench 160 at the pump and run while someone with the exact same body composition of fat/muscle weight who is 5'9" gets to bench way less (and has shorter arms on top of it!). Why should I have to bench more just because I am tall? I get that the bodyweight metric is supposed to be a proxy for muscle/fat ratio, but bone structure weight is fixed.
Any doubt Solinski could go negative?
How is the event run?
Do you get to do a warm-up, do your bench reps and then immediately hop to the line to race everyone with the same start?
Or is there 15 minutes or so between the bench and the run?
I don't see one set of high reps hurting your run too much before the race.
Twitched wrote:
These sound like imaginary facts.
Your reps are worth the same as a shorter guy. Stop making things up and get in better shape.
Ok, since you didn't pay attention in physics class:
W = m * g * h
work equals mass multiplied with g (9.81 m/s^2) and height
So obviously there are two factors that play a role here:
1. how high you push that bar (obviously the longer arms push it higher)
2. the mass that you're pushing up (the heavier, the harder you work).
Again, I like the event, they spell it all out ahead of time. If you don't like it let someone else enter since they sell out so fast. I have done a few other P&R and most have fewer than 100 athletes.
OR better yet, put one on and do it your way.. and quit whinning
You can lift between 7am-9am, the run starts at 10:30am.
Are you just trolling? Is there any other reason behind your rants? It is how good you are benching your body weight and how good you are in the 5k. Is there another type of exercise that you could do that would show your upper body strength as easily and would be fair to everyone fat, tall, short, skinny, black, hispanic, white and any other variable you throw out there? The event is fine as is. If you set the weight at a fixed amount, what is that weight supposed to be? If you increase the max above 30, where end it? If the 5k is too short, how long should it be? Everyone always has these dumb ass suggestions for this event. The 5k is the most recognized distance event behind the marathon. When someone wants to see how strong you are, they usually ask about your bench press. 30 is a good number of reps. The difference from 25 reps to 30 is enormous. Most of these letsrun guys that think they can do 30 reps easily have probably done 15 in their weight room, and figure with a month or two of bench training they can do 30x easily.
Yes I have a lot of doubt. He is like 165lbs, which would be probably impossible for him to do 30x's. Alan Webb would be able to do it, but he would have run less to get his bench up. From what I remember from his weight room workout in sub four, he was doing 3x10 @ 145lbs, which is around his body weight. He would have to be in the weight room 3x's a week for two years to get to 30x.