Let's keep things in perspective. A coach loves a sub 9 kid, but how did the kid get there? A CBA kid at 9:00 on 85 miles/week is no where near as attractive as a kid on 45 miles/week.
Another thing to remember, what's his mile and 800look like? Give me a 1:52 kid all day long over a 9:40 kid with a 2:30 pr.
Let's keep things in perspective. A coach loves a sub 9 kid, but how did the kid get there? A CBA kid at 9:00 on 85 miles/week is no where near as attractive as a kid on 45 miles/week.
Another thing to remember, what's his mile and 800 look like? Give me a 1:52 kid with a 9:45 pr all day long over a 9:35 kid with a 2:02 pr.
Often, high schools and colleges have the same head coach for both XC and T&F. IMO, former distance runners have a bias in favor of distance runners. Every time I see a 3200m specialist on LetsRun stating, "Can I get a full ride with X:xx time?" I always wonder, "What are your 400/800 PB?" Baseball has moved away from solely baseball guys since Billy Beane became GM of A's. Now, MLB teams are often run by math guys. With only 12 1/2 full rides for male track & field, it makes no sense to give a full ride to a 3200m specialists if the goal is to win NCAA T&F Championship. Every meet has 4x100m relay and 4x400m relay. It makes no sense to give full rides to anyone who doesn't have the 400m speed to be at least an alternate on 4x400m relay. I am excluding throwers of course. If I was putting together a T&F team, I would set aside one full ride for a thrower; one full ride for a jumper. A team needs at least six 100/200 guys; at least four to six 200/400 guys and at least two to four 400/800 guys. I doubt I would ever give anything to a 1500 to 10000 specialists. It's too hard to win big meets with 1500 to 10000 specialists as the best athletes on track & field team based on 12 1/2 athletic grants.
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Let's keep things in perspective. A coach loves a sub 9 kid, but how did the kid get there? A CBA kid at 9:00 on 85 miles/week is no where near as attractive as a kid on 45 miles/week.
Another thing to remember, what's his mile and 800look like? Give me a 1:52 kid all day long over a 9:40 kid with a 2:30 pr.
Agree on the 800. Ritz ran about 90 mpw in high school, and he turned out ok. But, he was also an 8:44 guy.
Way, way too high a % boys.
At best 25% athletic, then possibly some academic.
A fully funded track program has a severely limited number of scholarships.
A 9 minute kid scores ONCE in a conference meet for each season....that's it.
I'd take a comparable sprinter who scores 2-3 times every conference meet.
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How much money should a sub 9 two miler get at like a good college program, say like a Oklahoma, Indiania, Villanova, or like a Notre Dame type caliber school? (i understand that these schools are not all just as good as the next but I think they are close enough to generalize).
Chances are, this guy would be a pretty decent studen (as most distance runners are) and he could go to school for free with a sub 9:00 and decent ACT/SAT (academic scholarship) score.
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Way, way too high a % boys.
At best 25% athletic, then possibly some academic.
A fully funded track program has a severely limited number of scholarships.
A 9 minute kid scores ONCE in a conference meet for each season....that's it.
I'd take a comparable sprinter who scores 2-3 times every conference meet.
9 min guy will run xc nationals. And most programs are both cross country and track. It's not too hard to be good at both.
Way, way too high a % boys.
At best 25% athletic, then possibly some academic.
A fully funded track program has a severely limited number of scholarships.
A 9 minute kid scores ONCE in a conference meet for each season....that's it.
I'd take a comparable sprinter who scores 2-3 times every conference meet.
TWX wrote:
How much money should a sub 9 two miler get at like a good college program, say like a Oklahoma, Indiania, Villanova, or like a Notre Dame type caliber school? (i understand that these schools are not all just as good as the next but I think they are close enough to generalize).
Ran 4:10/8:58. Received 23% at a Top 1% CC/Track Program.