nope, 4:02.xx
nope, 4:02.xx
Cheserek 4:02:29
What was his time?
That's exactly a one second PR over his OUTDOOR PR in January.
Whoops, 4:02:21
NJ Possible wrote:
Cheserek 4:02:29
Do you have no native christian gonzalez time?
Good god that announcer was embarrassing. Said he still had a shot with a lap to go. No, it was clear he didn't. Then after the finish, saying it was 'close'. No, it was a 4:02.
Respect to Cheserek--4:02 in January is very good. But man, that announcer.
Baddeley wins in 3:57 btw.
Hawkrunner wrote:
NJ Possible wrote:Cheserek 4:02:29
Do you have no native christian gonzalez time?
Nj native. Stupid auto correct
Great run but they can't count this kid's times in the record books. he's another kenyan teen phenom!
Full results?
What place?
are you serious about the announcer?
first off, ian brooks is a god in this sport.
and if you are a fan of the sport, you have to be an optimist, and he clearly hit 3:00.08 at the 1200, he sure enough had a chance at sub 4. oh and yes, 4:02 is damn close for a high schooler indoors, pull me a list of ten high schoolers who have run faster indoors and i'll give you the win.
afromanmiler wrote:
are you serious about the announcer?
first off, ian brooks is a god in this sport.
and if you are a fan of the sport, you have to be an optimist, and he clearly hit 3:00.08 at the 1200, he sure enough had a chance at sub 4. oh and yes, 4:02 is damn close for a high schooler indoors, pull me a list of ten high schoolers who have run faster indoors and i'll give you the win.
He was not close, in that it was clear that he was too far behind the winning time of 3:57 to have a chance at sub 4 and yet the announcer was saying it was close, like there was a chance that he broke it, which it was very clear he wasn't going to be sub 4. Yes, I agree, horrible announcing.
isn't ian brooks dominican?
Tangiers tommy wrote:
" and who speak good English."
-duuuuude, you made my day.
As I said before, people who can't speak good, or even basic, English in an interview are not good for the sport in America. Why should joe-blow on the street care about who wins the local 5k state title if the guy winning can't even be interviewed in English? Why should the local newspaper do a story in the sports section about the guy who set the HS record for the mile if the new record holder doesn't even have anything to say, because he doesn't speak our language? Why should they do a story on some "no name Kenyan" (they are names to you and I, but "no name Kenyan" is an accurate description to the average reader) that people are going to immediately pass over?
Do you care about the state of the sport at all? Do you want to track and field in the United States to become even more of a niche sport, where no one except the athletes and their parents even know what a 5k is?
How fair is it that American high school boys have to compete against Kenyans that were just shipped over here barely 12 months ago, don't have a legitimate birth certificate, and may or may not be between 22-25 years old?
Legally, there is nothing we can do to stop it, I suppose, but that doesn't mean we can't root against them.
If all you are interested in seeing is fast times, go to Kenya or Ethiopia. If you want to see the sport of track and field become bigger and more important in America, you had better hope for some actual Americans to start stepping up and running faster.
Captain Tenneal wrote:
Tangiers tommy wrote:" and who speak good English."
-duuuuude, you made my day.
As I said before, people who can't speak good, or even basic, English in an interview are not good for the sport in America. Why should joe-blow on the street care about who wins the local 5k state title if the guy winning can't even be interviewed in English? Why should the local newspaper do a story in the sports section about the guy who set the HS record for the mile if the new record holder doesn't even have anything to say, because he doesn't speak our language? Why should they do a story on some "no name Kenyan" (they are names to you and I, but "no name Kenyan" is an accurate description to the average reader) that people are going to immediately pass over?
Do you care about the state of the sport at all? Do you want to track and field in the United States to become even more of a niche sport, where no one except the athletes and their parents even know what a 5k is?
How fair is it that American high school boys have to compete against Kenyans that were just shipped over here barely 12 months ago, don't have a legitimate birth certificate, and may or may not be between 22-25 years old?
Legally, there is nothing we can do to stop it, I suppose, but that doesn't mean we can't root against them.
If all you are interested in seeing is fast times, go to Kenya or Ethiopia. If you want to see the sport of track and field become bigger and more important in America, you had better hope for some actual Americans to start stepping up and running faster.
Gov. Blackheads speech school wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i19rlHmAkUA
I can't tell if you're joking or serious. In case you're serious...baseball is on an entirely different plane than track and field as far as sports in America is concerned. Everyday from April-October baseball attracts anywhere from 20k-50k fans to stadiums, day in and day out. It is a multi-million/billion dollar business. They have enough stars who the fans know and have seen in countless interviews, ads, newspapers, etc.
Colleges are cutting track and field programs across the country. When is the last time a college baseball program was cut as opposed to a college cross country program?
The two aren't even close to being remotely comparable. Try again.
Captain Tenneal wrote:
I can't tell if you're joking or serious. In case you're serious...baseball is on an entirely different plane than track and field as far as sports in America is concerned. Everyday from April-October baseball attracts anywhere from 20k-50k fans to stadiums, day in and day out. It is a multi-million/billion dollar business. They have enough stars who the fans know and have seen in countless interviews, ads, newspapers, etc.
Colleges are cutting track and field programs across the country. When is the last time a college baseball program was cut as opposed to a college cross country program?
The two aren't even close to being remotely comparable. Try again.
I don't see what was so wrong with his response. He was responding to your point about athletes needing to speak good English in order to have interest in the USA, wasn't he?
I disagree with that point also. Bekele can't speak English very well but I love watching him. I've never heard El G speak English (not saying he does or doesnt, but it doesn't matter to me). I've never heard Christiano Ronaldo or Ronaldinho speak English, but they certainly have my attention.
Tangiers tommy wrote:
" and who speak good English."
-duuuuude, you made my day.
waiting for the captain to respond to this again, as he clearly didn't get it the first time...
Just sayin dude wrote:
I disagree with that point also. Bekele can't speak English very well but I love watching him. I've never heard El G speak English (not saying he does or doesnt, but it doesn't matter to me). I've never heard Christiano Ronaldo or Ronaldinho speak English, but they certainly have my attention.
Bekele--No one outside of my running friends, and actually even most of them, know who Bekele is. He is not popular in America.
El G- Same thing. He is not popular in America. Ask the average non-runing fan who El G, they will not know. Ask the average non baseball fan who Sammy Sosa is, there is a good chance they will know, or at least have an idea.
Cristiano Rinaldo--Part of his popularity is not even due to soccer. It was his former relationship/whatever-they-called-it with Paris Hilton. I first read about him on tmz.com. Plus many women find him attractive.
Ronaldinho--I am not really sure who this is. I think he plays soccer. Outside of that, I don't know. I could not identify him by a picture or by what team he plays for, nor do I know what country he is from.
Just sayin dude wrote:
I don't see what was so wrong with his response. He was responding to your point about athletes needing to speak good English in order to have interest in the USA, wasn't he?
A little bit different here. My point was that already millions and millions of people like baseball and attend baseball games (not so much track meets...) So it is much easier to become popular and endeared to fans, especially with the cubs. Plus, a lot of his fame also came from the duel with Mark McGwire.
I am just saying that for a sport that is not very popular, like track and field, the faces of our sport should be those to whom the public can relate. We are not going to draw fans in with random Kenyans. As bad as that may sound, it is what is best for the sport in America, and there isn't really any way of denying it.