G. Buster wrote:
I can take comfort in the fact that either you or them are either lying or mistaken about what they saw.
And that's that.
It's good that you can retreat into your comfort zone. That's what searching for the truth is all about isn't it?
I like how ghosts hangout in the same shitty spot for hundreds of years. Abused in the asylum? Hey, sounds like a fun place to chill for 340 years, bro!
ZB wrote:
Do those that don't believe in ghosts believe in God? Seems to be one in the same?
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but I think the answer is no? I believe in God and I also believe in ghosts. Ghosts, spirits, etc are mentioned in the Bible; therefore, I believe they exist.
Christian Ghost wrote:
ZB wrote:Do those that don't believe in ghosts believe in God? Seems to be one in the same?
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but I think the answer is no? I believe in God and I also believe in ghosts. Ghosts, spirits, etc are mentioned in the Bible; therefore, I believe they exist.
The Bible also mentions that the world was flooded and an old man was able to herd 2 of every species onto a wooden boat. Do you believe that inane garbage too? Maybe it's time to start thinking for yourself.
but last night i had couple night terrors where i thought someone/thing was trying to grab me, felt their presence and i felt paralyzed to speak...happened twice within 10 minutes. my spouse had to wake me up...
i really don't like this feeling (someone's hand grabbing, an animal clawing, etc) but have been getting them the last few months.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think I should be more clear: if someone believes in God, does that imply that they also believe that ghosts are real?
Vortex wrote:
The Bible also mentions that the world was flooded and an old man was able to herd 2 of every species onto a wooden boat. Do you believe that inane garbage too? Maybe it's time to start thinking for yourself.
Ah really? I mean, if you don't believe it, fine, but to call it inane garbage is a bit much. There's plenty of evidence out there that points to there having been a worldwide flood. The fact that I choose to believe it shows that I am actually thinking for myself.
http://www.trueorigin.org/arkdefen.asphttp://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htmhttp://unmaskingevolution.com/18-flood.htmhttp://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/worldwide-flood-evidenceZB wrote:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think I should be more clear: if someone believes in God, does that imply that they also believe that ghosts are real?
No, not necessarily I guess. I know about as many Christians who believe in ghosts as don't, and the same holds true for non-Christian friends.
Christian Ghost wrote:
Vortex wrote:The Bible also mentions that the world was flooded and an old man was able to herd 2 of every species onto a wooden boat. Do you believe that inane garbage too? Maybe it's time to start thinking for yourself.
Ah really? I mean, if you don't believe it, fine, but to call it inane garbage is a bit much. There's plenty of evidence out there that points to there having been a worldwide flood. The fact that I choose to believe it shows that I am actually thinking for myself.
http://www.trueorigin.org/arkdefen.asphttp://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htmhttp://unmaskingevolution.com/18-flood.htmhttp://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/worldwide-flood-evidence
Thanks for that.
Those websites are absolutely hilarious.
There is not enough water on the earth for a word wide flood covering all the land. There are too many animals to collect on one boat. On ghosts- they clearly don't exist. While one cannot say for sure what will be explained by science in the future there are certain things we can surely agree most likely will not be found to exist (unicorns, lepricons, fairies, mermaids, ghosts, etc...)
Christian Ghost wrote:
Vortex wrote:The Bible also mentions that the world was flooded and an old man was able to herd 2 of every species onto a wooden boat. Do you believe that inane garbage too? Maybe it's time to start thinking for yourself.
Ah really? I mean, if you don't believe it, fine, but to call it inane garbage is a bit much. There's plenty of evidence out there that points to there having been a worldwide flood. The fact that I choose to believe it shows that I am actually thinking for myself.
http://www.trueorigin.org/arkdefen.asphttp://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htmhttp://unmaskingevolution.com/18-flood.htmhttp://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/worldwide-flood-evidence
Has to be said wrote:
It's good that you can retreat into your comfort zone. That's what searching for the truth is all about isn't it?
Unless you can provide empirical proof (or hell, any tangible proof at all) of these entities, there's no need to 'retreat' to my comfort zone because my comfort zone is the reality of the world we're currently living in.
You'll notice that your snide, asinine quip did not address the issue concerning ghosts in any way. At this point it would appear you're merely trolling.
Vortex wrote:
Christian Ghost wrote:I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but I think the answer is no? I believe in God and I also believe in ghosts. Ghosts, spirits, etc are mentioned in the Bible; therefore, I believe they exist.
The Bible also mentions that the world was flooded and an old man was able to herd 2 of every species onto a wooden boat. Do you believe that inane garbage too? Maybe it's time to start thinking for yourself.
In addition, the bible says the world was flooded because angels mated with women to create evil, half-breed giants that had to be wiped out.
Christian Ghost wrote:
Vortex wrote:The Bible also mentions that the world was flooded and an old man was able to herd 2 of every species onto a wooden boat. Do you believe that inane garbage too? Maybe it's time to start thinking for yourself.
Ah really? I mean, if you don't believe it, fine, but to call it inane garbage is a bit much. There's plenty of evidence out there that points to there having been a worldwide flood. The fact that I choose to believe it shows that I am actually thinking for myself.
http://www.trueorigin.org/arkdefen.asphttp://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htmhttp://unmaskingevolution.com/18-flood.htmhttp://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/worldwide-flood-evidence
Oh, wow, come on.
There is NO evidence there was a worldwide flood. There is evidence that there was NEVER a worldwide flood.
Think about it. Water covering the entire surface of the Earth, mountains included.
Where's that water at?
Believe in your bible god if you want, but don't bring facts and science into the discussion. And don't parade creation sites around as if they're anything but pseudoscience, which is EXACTLY what the scientific community considers them.
It just makes you sound like a brain-washed simpleton who can't think for them self.
pjb wrote:
007run wrote:I'm not saying there are ghosts in the afterlife kind of way exactly. But, perhaps it is possible for people or things to leave an electromagnetic resonance of some sort that can be seen by the brain under certain conditions. Alternate realities have pretty much been accepted as somewhat legitimate so I wouldn't totally doubt after resonances of energy and thought are possible. Our thoughts are after all only electrical impulses. The likelihood they can be duplicated in another dimension is crazy but not altogether inconceivable. Stuff that we used to think was magic is now considered science so I won't play ghosts out just yet. I'm a fairly logical agnostic so this is weird considering but who is to say there isn't a way the presence of a "ghost" might be explained someday in a rational fashion we would have once perceived as cuckoo.
You don't even understand what an electromagnetic resonance is, do you? Admit it.
Electromagnetism has been well understood for a century now. The thorough exploration of its phenomena, applications, and curiosities has been under way for at least that long. As an example of how well understood it is, consider the fact that you're reading this on a machine that has been designed, top to bottom, to take advantage of the physics of electricity and magnetism and this text may have even been sent through the air encoded in an electromagnetic wave on its way to your computer.
So when you do all this hand-waving about things that might "leave an electromagnetic resonance" for the brain to "see", and you bring up random, unrelated, untested physics hypotheses like alternate realities out of left field, and you write hilariously about the likelihood of electrical impulses being "duplicated in another dimension", and you mix all of those words together in a jumbled mess that doesn't really say anything, keep in mind that there are engineers and physicists that actually understand what these things mean and in what context they are defined.
And they laugh at you.
Aghast wrote:
There is not enough water on the earth for a word wide flood covering all the land. There are too many animals to collect on one boat.
I always wondered how the kangaroos and koalas and wombats and armadillos and jaguars and everything got from other continents to the Mid East to hop on Noah's boat.
The Earth wasn't nearly as big back then. Global warming is causing it to expand, so right now, it DOES seem preposterous to think all animals could get to the mideast to wear towels on their heads.
Yeah, evidently Lott's daughters got him so drunk he slept with them cause there were no men around to start civilization over. I really believe that one.
007run wrote:
Yeah, evidently Lott's daughters got him so drunk he slept with them cause there were no men around to start civilization over. I really believe that one.
You've confused Lot and Noah.
Lot is of Sodom and Gomorrah fame. Noah of world wide flood fame.
Though to be fair, Noah had to have been having relations with his daughters too to repopulate the world.
G. Buster wrote:
I can take comfort in the fact that either you or them are either lying or mistaken about what they saw.
I can assure you my brother nor his family or friends had anything to gain be making up a story about this.
If four eye witnesses testified in court that they saw the same thing, it is generally good enough for a jury. Are you saying you would not believe the witnesses unless you were also a witness?
bible reader wrote:
007run wrote:Yeah, evidently Lott's daughters got him so drunk he slept with them cause there were no men around to start civilization over. I really believe that one.
You've confused Lot and Noah.
Lot is of Sodom and Gomorrah fame. Noah of world wide flood fame.
Though to be fair, Noah had to have been having relations with his daughters too to repopulate the world.
I stand corrected. You are right about Noah. I still think the story is way not plausible. They would need a lot more couples to start up with. In other news, is that the same Lott who offered his daughters to the mob to rape because he was trying to protect the visiting angels?