Pretty safe to say that Solinsky's surgery opens up a spot in the 5000 and 10,000. There is just no way he will be able to get in speed work screwed like a robot.
Pretty safe to say that Solinsky's surgery opens up a spot in the 5000 and 10,000. There is just no way he will be able to get in speed work screwed like a robot.
Thanks for posting!...refreshing to see some positive info for once...
A true marathon-type runner, with a large lifetime base & a great buildup, should be able to run under 2:10 if he can run 28:30.
The issue isn't that our 10k guys are too slow, it's that they're severely under performing in the Marathon. If you're running 27:30 or under, you really should be able to bust out a 2:06:xx for the Marathon.
Look at Ryan Hall, his 5k PR (13:15) converts to 27:30 for 10k...he's run 2:06:17 (legit, 2:04:57 "wind aided"), and his 1/2 PR (59:43) actually suggests that he's 2:05:xx capable. Roberyt Kipkoech Cheruiyot (4x Boston winner, 1x Chicago, 2nd place at New York) has run 27:48 for 10k, but has also run 1:00:05 for the half and 2:07:14 in Boston.
People like Nelson, Ritz, Curtis, Bauhs, Vaughn, Abdi, Meb are all capable of 2:06-2:08, in my honest opinion. It's all about the right, proper training. That being said, i think a few of the aforementioned runners (Ritz especially), aren't suited for the marathon distance, but it's just an example. Very curious to see how Rupp/Solinsky will do in the Marathon in 3-5 years. Puskedra will probably be a 2:09 marathoner.
Solinsky doesn't just want to compete. He wants a medal. GOOD ON YA CHRIS!
http://runnersfeed.com/solinsky-still-has-eyes-set-on-a-medal-in-london/
Galen, Alberto, and Mo Farah spent some time with the local high school cross-country team in Park City this summer. It was a real highlight for the team and they did this right before they left for the World Championships.
Yes for real. It's on the meet website and the facebook event page.
God of Letsrun wrote:
Pretty safe to say that Solinsky's surgery opens up a spot in the 5000 and 10,000. There is just no way he will be able to get in speed work screwed like a robot.
ROBO SOLINSKY begs to differ. ROBO SOLINSKY will crush all challengers.
theres a 93% chance that you are lying.
ROBO SOLINSKY wrote:
God of Letsrun wrote:Pretty safe to say that Solinsky's surgery opens up a spot in the 5000 and 10,000. There is just no way he will be able to get in speed work screwed like a robot.
ROBO SOLINSKY begs to differ. ROBO SOLINSKY will crush all challengers.
We'll see.
tsquaredcali wrote:
Apparently I was wrong. You can run the marathon trials if you've run 28:30 10K on the track. Really? No wonder we suck.
Its trials douche nozzel, and in the marathon. You could let 1000's of people try out it wouldn't have anything to do with the quality of people who you send. They still have to be the best in the country and under the the olympic A standard which by my count we had 8 guys under last year. My guess is you never went under 28:30 or 2:15 so until you know whats going on in the running world please resist the urge to write something stupid.
I think 10k ability is no where near an indication of marathon ability.
Lost Soul wrote:
A true marathon-type runner, with a large lifetime base & a great buildup, should be able to run under 2:10 if he can run 28:30.
The issue isn't that our 10k guys are too slow, it's that they're severely under performing in the Marathon. If you're running 27:30 or under, you really should be able to bust out a 2:06:xx for the Marathon.
Look at Ryan Hall, his 5k PR (13:15) converts to 27:30 for 10k...he's run 2:06:17 (legit, 2:04:57 "wind aided"), and his 1/2 PR (59:43) actually suggests that he's 2:05:xx capable. Roberyt Kipkoech Cheruiyot (4x Boston winner, 1x Chicago, 2nd place at New York) has run 27:48 for 10k, but has also run 1:00:05 for the half and 2:07:14 in Boston.
People like Nelson, Ritz, Curtis, Bauhs, Vaughn, Abdi, Meb are all capable of 2:06-2:08, in my honest opinion. It's all about the right, proper training. That being said, i think a few of the aforementioned runners (Ritz especially), aren't suited for the marathon distance, but it's just an example. Very curious to see how Rupp/Solinsky will do in the Marathon in 3-5 years. Puskedra will probably be a 2:09 marathoner.
Ummm Curtis has been doing the "right, proper training" and just ran a 2:17 Sunday...I think all world class marathoners can run a world class 10K but not the other way around...
mwwwin wrote:...I think all world class marathoners can run a world class 10K but not the other way around...
KK?
26mi235 wrote:
mwwwin wrote:...I think all world class marathoners can run a world class 10K but not the other way around...KKK?
Huh?
Former record-holder in the marathon; as I remember his 10K - 10,000m time was not particularly stunning. Partially, he did not focus on it but it was more than that. Assuming that world class 10,000s are in the 26s and 27 is still respectable, KK might have a high 28.
KK ran 27:45 (and a 27:47) at Peachtree.
"I hope you mean after tax, and I hope your work 7 days a week, otherwise the bragging ain't really cutting it."
-hahahaha! Well done.
joecrunner wrote:
I think 10k ability is no where near an indication of marathon ability.
It is an indicator. A 30:00 man is not going to run 2:06.
A 28:30 should correspond to 2:11-2:12 given equal training for both the marathon and 10k. I see no reason not to let a 28:30 10k guy into the trials. If they can't beat someone who barely hit the 2:19 with relative ease, they just need to do better marathon preparations. A 28:30 is a much better performance than the marathon standard, hands down.