I see allot of post about James LI getting too much credit about Lawi Lalang and Stephen Sambu! You need to look who's behind this great Runners! Li did not know this guys, but Boaz lalang Deserves lots of credit for bringing this guys to Arizona. Otherwise Coach Li would be wishing he had them in Arizona if this guys were running for other schools. So don't credit James Li too much because i know the story behind this!
Lol! i know you guys wish Lawi was like a regular white kid and you guys would be talking crap about Africans not challenging this "white kid"
Lawi is from Rift valley, Coach Li knew him through Boaz lalang. kalenjins are born Runners and they live in Rift Valley..
dsrunner has the day off wrote:
47 miles/week schedule
what would you expect this guy to run for 5000m?
S 11 miles w/ hills 60'
M 5 miles 30'
T 3x2000m 5'30" w/ 2'30" rest
W 5 miles 30'
Th 8x1000m: 2'55" w/ 65" rest + 1x450m 1'
F 7 miles w/ hills 40'
S 5 miles 30'
* 1.5 miles warmup 8' and 1 mile jog 7'
weights M,W,F
T track
Th 1000m reps on grass, 450m rep on track
First off this is not a training schedule for Lawi. This is made up. And in reference to another poster, Lawi has been running much longer than a year, but only been actually training for about that long.
not sure if this is the case but africans like to give their mileage in terms of quality. so he may do 50 mpw of quality sessions (tempo, speed, long run) and not count morning runs or wu/cd plus easy runs
My be its about time to invest in Kenya and give the poor Kenyan Runners facilities and best doctors ever and pay them competitive salary
africans are more talented in general.pure fact. anyone who refutes this may as well kill themself. instead of people having to prove that africans are more talented why dont the skeptics try to prove that they are not? there are far too many examples that aid my comment so F off
huit wrote:
africans are more talented in general.pure fact. anyone who refutes this may as well kill themself. instead of people having to prove that africans are more talented why dont the skeptics try to prove that they are not? there are far too many examples that aid my comment so F off
You guys have no idea.......
Runners fun wrote:
My be its about time to invest in Kenya and give the poor Kenyan Runners facilities and best doctors ever and pay them competitive salary
If you feel strongly about this, you should do it. How much would you be willing to pay for salaries? How many people's salaries do you think you would be able to afford?
haha wrote:
True about Lawi. That is what that whole team does. That is why they suck ass except for one superstud. No coaching whatsoever! 50mwp is not nearly enough unless you are ridiculously talented. If you are "only" an 8:55-9:05 3200m guy from the US, chances are you wont be nearly as good as you could be.
Obviously the US is geared towards teaching kids how to play basketball, Football with specs of states growing volleyball, hockey, lacrosse and a flock of sprinters.
50 miles a week is adequate for any type of runner if he has spent the follow up years training. Most US kids run 4-8 years before stumbling into college. Most African children have been running 8-12 years.
You grab 100 10 year old kids, run them 4 miles a day or enter them in a track/XC club. Then put them on a middle school/highschool team, see how good they are when they hit college, you'll have at least 50 studs, that are as fast or faster than Rupp,Ritz,Hall or Solinsky.
Why does 50 mpw work for Africans and not anyone else.
Lawi looks as if he can run 13:00
50 miles a week can work for anyone damn it. You just have to be strong. Americans need to stop being a bunch of pusses and run faster. Thats it
If Yuki Kawauchi can run 2:08 off 80 mpw, I have no doubt a talented runner can run 13:00 off 50 mpw of high quality running. Keep in mind that this isn't some high school kid jogging 6 mile runs every day; he's doing hard workouts and running fast most days.
Lagat was known to be low mileage in his prime, and I'm sure he could've gone sub-13.
I think what people are writing about how the Kelnjins have been running for 8-12 years is right. Once you build up the number of your capillaries, aren't they always there? When I was kid in the US, I would play for hours with one kid until he got too tired and went home, then I'd find another kid and play with him until he was too tired, etc. In 8th grade I ran 5:38 on almost no training, which I know is no world record, but not a bad first mile ever. If US kids would get off of the gameboys and go out there and walk, run, skateboard, bicycle, play pick up basketball, etc., then they'd be faster once they became collegiate athletes.
African runners are very honest. All letsrun.com posters know they never lie about their age, their fitness for a race or how many miles they run.
From200mTo8k wrote:
I think what people are writing about how the Kelnjins have been running for 8-12 years is right. Once you build up the number of your capillaries, aren't they always there? When I was kid in the US, I would play for hours with one kid until he got too tired and went home, then I'd find another kid and play with him until he was too tired, etc. In 8th grade I ran 5:38 on almost no training, which I know is no world record, but not a bad first mile ever. If US kids would get off of the gameboys and go out there and walk, run, skateboard, bicycle, play pick up basketball, etc., then they'd be faster once they became collegiate athletes.
I grew up out in the country and my friends and I spent lots of time riding bikes, playing physical games or walking to get around. I had an Atari but hardly ever played it. Most kids did not have gaming systems at that time. We only had 3 stations on the TV so I never spent a lot of time sitting on my ass watching TV. I was slow in HS. I don't think I ever broke 17 for 3 miles (not 5K).
Amount of physical activity as a child is not the only answer. Wasn't it Paul Tergat that said he lived close to school and his family owned a car? He did not have the typical E. African upbringing that we like to credit with African running dominance. There's more to it than that. I have no idea what it is but there's something else.
It's called genetics.
shoe guy wrote:
It's called genetics.
worst argument ever, what does that even mean?
Paul ran at a younger age than most Americans, its not about upbringing its about being raised to run.
Most American's are raised on the sports that we watch on TV everyday. If you could put a track around Ford Field, do you think you could still fill up every seat like the Lions have been doing for years?
American's simply don't have the youth development systems that the Eastern countries have for sports like Soccer,Cricket,Rugby and track/cross country.
simply quality over quantity... we had a guy on my team in HS that ran low 15:00 on ~30 MPW doing the Knudson training intensely year-round
read about Knudson:
http://www.runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=16388&PageNum=1
firefly wrote:
not sure if this is the case but africans like to give their mileage in terms of quality. so he may do 50 mpw of quality sessions (tempo, speed, long run) and not count morning runs or wu/cd plus easy runs
Pure guessing!