Ryan Martin (1:49.90) and Cas Loxsom (1:52.09 ) Advance At World University Games

Not anyone - anyone under the age of 28 who is in university or has graduated less than one year ago.

can-can wrote:

Just because your f**ked up system has age limits doesn't mean others do, or even should. Last time I looked, there wasn't an age restriction on going to University - this meet is for ANYONE in University. The rest of the world doesn't revolve around the NCAA scholarship system.

paca-man wrote:

Yeah this meet is a total sham. I graduated from college over 4 years ago and 5 of the guys in these two heats alone are older than me.

whats wrong with their coach? i've heard some good things about him and it seems like her produces well with guys that aren't as talented as the best recruits

Pete D is an excellent coach - just bs from a typical lets run anonymous whiner who probably got cut or didn't get any attention paid to him. So sad

I didn't go to UCSB but I've heard enough horror stories and had enough close friends/relatives who did to know what's up.

Ran four years under Dolo. If I had to do it all over again I wouldn't run for ANY other coach in the country. Ask Steph Rothstein, Tetlo Emmen, Ryan Martin, Cullum...

Small name program, amazing results.

you guys should all post on this thread then:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=3753753&thread=3735222

most of the opinions are negative.

Both are comfortably through to the finals:

Semifinal 2 Start Time: 19:35

Rank Bib Name C/R Date of Birth Lane Result

1 797 SAMOEI Fred KEN 12 JAN 1986 5 1:46.91 Q

2 1392 LOXSOM Casimir USA 17 MAR 1991 6 1:47.10 Q

3 1196 SOKOLOV Viatcheslav RUS 15 DEC 1984 3 1:47.15 q

4 319 TENG Haining CHN 25 JUN 1993 1 1:47.27 q PB

5 1109 OLIVIER Andre Karl RSA 29 DEC 1989 8 1:47.48

6 911 MAINY Ahmed MAR 20 AUG 1986 7 1:47.54 PB

7 882 KOZLOV Vitalij LTU 5 MAR 1987 2 1:48.49

8 141 KAAN James AUS 17 SEP 1990 4 1:49.41

Semifinal 3 Start Time: 19:45

Rank Bib Name C/R Date of Birth Lane Result

1 217 PAES Lutimar BRA 14 DEC 1988 4 1:48.03 Q

2 1400 MARTIN Ryan USA 23 MAR 1989 3 1:48.07 Q

3 685 MORADI Sajad IRI 30 MAR 1983 6 1:48.10

4 120 BRAHIMI Mahfoud ALG 24 FEB 1985 5 1:48.11

5 1379 OSMOLOVYCH Oleksandr UKR 8 OCT 1985 8 1:49.46

6 1326 ULUS Cihat TUR 1 FEB 1990 2 1:50.30

7 456 FOSTI Roman EST 6 JUN 1983 1 1:50.77

8 1124 SELOBA Tlou Mogagale RSA 8 MAY 1985 7 1:53.81

I'm not sure if I'd call .03 for Martin 'comfortably through.' That being said, there were a lot of 1:45 guys in those heats so it's a good result (see pbs here:http://match.sz2011.org/pdf/AT/ATM004200/ATM004200.C51B.ENG.1.0.pdf) It's also good to see Sameoi running so well again.

Here are all three heats results:

Semifinal 1 Start Time: 19:25

Rank Bib Name C/R Date of Birth Lane Result

1 610 LUDOLPH Soeren GER 25 FEB 1988 5 1:47.98 Q

2 147 RENSHAW Lachlan AUS 2 APR 1987 4 1:48.03 Q

3 356 RODRIGUEZ Rafith COL 1 JUN 1989 6 1:48.17

4 119 TOUIL Abdelmadjed ALG 11 FEB 1989 2 1:48.92

5 560 THOMAS Joe GBR 29 JAN 1988 7 1:49.04

6 489 GRANLUND Tommy FIN 21 APR 1983 8 1:49.09

7 191 ANANENKA Anis BLR 29 NOV 1985 3 1:49.53

8 200 SEGOSEBE Otlaadisa BOT 12 JAN 1992 1 1:49.81 PB

Intermediate times: 400m 53.73 200 SEGOSEBE Otlaadisa (BOT)

600m 1:21.44 200 SEGOSEBE Otlaadisa (BOT)

Semifinal 2 Start Time: 19:35

Rank Bib Name C/R Date of Birth Lane Result

1 797 SAMOEI Fred KEN 12 JAN 1986 5 1:46.91 Q

2 1392 LOXSOM Casimir USA 17 MAR 1991 6 1:47.10 Q

3 1196 SOKOLOV Viatcheslav RUS 15 DEC 1984 3 1:47.15 q

4 319 TENG Haining CHN 25 JUN 1993 1 1:47.27 q PB

5 1109 OLIVIER Andre Karl RSA 29 DEC 1989 8 1:47.48

6 911 MAINY Ahmed MAR 20 AUG 1986 7 1:47.54 PB

7 882 KOZLOV Vitalij LTU 5 MAR 1987 2 1:48.49

8 141 KAAN James AUS 17 SEP 1990 4 1:49.41

Intermediate times: 400m 52.52 797 SAMOEI Fred (KEN)

600m 1:19.69 797 SAMOEI Fred (KEN)

Semifinal 3 Start Time: 19:45

Rank Bib Name C/R Date of Birth Lane Result

1 217 PAES Lutimar BRA 14 DEC 1988 4 1:48.03 Q

2 1400 MARTIN Ryan USA 23 MAR 1989 3 1:48.07 Q

3 685 MORADI Sajad IRI 30 MAR 1983 6 1:48.10

4 120 BRAHIMI Mahfoud ALG 24 FEB 1985 5 1:48.11

5 1379 OSMOLOVYCH Oleksandr UKR 8 OCT 1985 8 1:49.46

6 1326 ULUS Cihat TUR 1 FEB 1990 2 1:50.30

7 456 FOSTI Roman EST 6 JUN 1983 1 1:50.77

8 1124 SELOBA Tlou Mogagale RSA 8 MAY 1985 7 1:53.81

Intermediate times: 400m 53.75 456 FOSTI Roman (EST)

600m 1:21.10 120 BRAHIMI Mahfoud (ALG)

Qualified: First 2 in each heat (Q) and 2 best performers (q) advance to the Final

Yeah I'm sure Ryan Martin regretted running under Pete Dolan, going from 153 in high school to 145 his 4th year with one year of eligibility left... I'm sure he hates it a lot!

nice to see both guys made the final! USA!!

Regarding Pete Dolan, I have heard both good and bad things about him and his program. He is not your typical college coach, and he has done some very amazing things with runners who have untapped talent entering college.

However, from my experience in talking with him and from hearing things from friends on the team, he has this certain arrogant pride about him...which isn't a bad thing. it's just his way or the highway. Unfortunately A LOT of talented runners who choose his program choose the highway after a year or two because they simply cannot hang with level of commitment he requires from them.

That being said, they usually depart due to frequent injuries

--Pete trains his athletes as if they're all the cream of the crop, much the same as Oregon and Stanford train their runners . By running them into the ground, pounding out the miles and intervals and doing all the small things that can shave off seconds. He asks a lot from his runners and unfortunately a lot of them end up on the sideline due to injuries.

UCSB is also a HUGE distraction by being one of the top party schools in America. Even great runners fall victim to the numerous parties that Isla vista offers.

That being said, I believe he is a great coach. You can check the numerous athletes who have succeeded in his program. He just isn't the right coach for everybody. You just need to have

Pete has been on the job over 20 years so he must be doing something right since UCSB has very little funding and has THE WORST TRACK in the state of California.