Aren't those hot dog WRs as durable as swimming WRs?
Aren't those hot dog WRs as durable as swimming WRs?
Mike Powell’s 8.95 long jump has lasted 20 years.
It was said at the time, we wouldn’t see Beamon’s world record broken in our lifetimes.
Flo-Jo's 10.49 100 meter record. Approaching 30 years now and even todays modern doping regimens can't hold a candle to hers!
danielKomen wrote:
It is clearly Daniel Komen's 7:20.67 in 3000m.
Hands down, no discussion, nothing to debate here. Long live Danny K
If anything it's Daniel Komen's INDOOR 3000m, but not the outdoor one. The outdoor one could fall one day if the 3000m was competed more frequently.
Admiral Akbar wrote:
danielKomen wrote:It is clearly Daniel Komen's 7:20.67 in 3000m.
Hands down, no discussion, nothing to debate here. Long live Danny K
Has to be Jackie Joyner-Kersee in the Heptathlon. The closest anyone has been to her 7291 since she broke the record was 7044, and that was herself. Only two other people ever have even been over 7000.
The women's 10k will be broken soon. Wasn't it just the last WC where two or three women went sub 30.
The women's marathon definitely the hardest. I think the men's mile is around for a long time to come yet. Even 12:37 seems a world away now. No one can even manage 12:50 now.
2:15:25
Remember the last Seinfeld episode ... the last scene:
"Haven't we had this conversation before?"
Remember Antietam wrote:
The women's marathon definitely the hardest. I think the men's mile is around for a long time to come yet. Even 12:37 seems a world away now. No one can even manage 12:50 now.
Men's mile is irrelevant outside the US, and overseas hardly ever contested. HEG could have run faster than his own WR.
Agree with the 12:37, don't think we will see that one go away anytime soon either. Damn you EPO tests.
danielKomen wrote:
It is clearly Daniel Komen's 7:20.67 in 3000m.
Couldn't agree more.
Yiannis Kouros - 188.590 miles in 24 hours. Think about that for a minute.
Dean Karnazes - no one ran faster from west cost to east coast than he did. I doubt anyone will be able to match that feat. Endurance Monster.
actually if we're talking non drug performances then the women's 2 mile of 8:58 by defar should totally win. next fastest girl is 9:14
TheShane wrote:
actually if we're talking non drug performances then the women's 2 mile of 8:58 by defar should totally win. next fastest girl is 9:14
How do you know what a non drug performance is? As far as I know, Wang Junxia never tested positive and her 3000m WR is a lot more impressive than women's 2 mile. Yes I know, everyone THINKS Wang Junxia was dirty but there is no proof.
I was wondering if this qualifies even if its no longer the WC. It stood for decades. Carl Lewis himself never broke it. Mike Powell broke it but as often as not didn't threaten it as much Lewis did. And ever since Lewis and Powell 20 years ago I don' think anyone has come seriously close to it. Though I might be wrong about that.
wepmad wrote:
Many good posts on this thread, but I still have to go with "Beamonesque". Maybe it's just my American bias.
I know the OP said excluding the 100 and 200, but I've got to say it: 9.58 and 19.19 are BY FAR the best.
The LJ record is good, but it is not a hotly-contested event. Neither is women's HJ, Heptathlon, 800m, etc.
In the women's 100m, Jeter is coming awfully close, and I can see others coming close, too. Wait until a female Bolt comes along, kind of like Marion, and both the 100 and 200 records will be in reach.
Komen's and Bekele's records are good.
BUT the next-best records to Bolt's have to be the marathon records, as they are the next-most-hotly contested events, I think.
And clearly the women's is better than the men's.
So in the end it comes down to either Bolt or Radcliffe. There is lots of $$$ in both the 100m and the marathon, and therefore lots of people running them and trying for the big prize--but the 100m is more genius and less work than the marathon. You can use skill to run a marathon WR, but you really need luck to run 100m WR.
Does luck come along less often than hard work?
All I know is that NOBODY will ever run 9.58 or especially 19.19 again in our lifetimes.
And drugs don't matter in this discussion.
Of course you could turn this logic on its head and say that the least-often contested events will be on the books the longest because nobody cares to challenge the records, especially if the records were set in an era where people cared about the event.
So what's the least-hotly-contested event right now, where the record was set in an era where people really cared? Maybe the men's LJ, or the women's Hep. The Kenyans still really care about anything above 1500m, Jamaica and other still care about the 100/200, people are getting bigger and so the throws and other jumps have a fair shot at going.
Bubka's record in the PV. The guy was brought up and raised to be a pole vaulter. Many elites try to model his style of jumping, and where it stands right now.. the closest ones (Hooker and Lavillenie) don't have a style that utlizies and maximizes energy efficiency like Bubka did. Nobody is able to replicate the kind of jump that Bubka could.
Wang Junxia's 8:06 is worth 8:44 for 2 mile. In terms of IAAF points its rated above Paula's 2:15 marathon (2:14 infact) and is equivilent to a 13:55 5000m
It really is a staggering mark.