9009 wrote:
SOL > rupp. STILL
Does Sol know he can outkick Merga and Almirew? Rupp does.
9009 wrote:
SOL > rupp. STILL
Does Sol know he can outkick Merga and Almirew? Rupp does.
^This, psychological edge. I am definitely a Solinsky fan, but he can't say he has outkicked a 7:27 3k guy.
Well Lagat certainly didn't have fresh legs, considering he was doing the 1500/5000 double. Heck, if Lagat didn't have to run his last 1600 in 3:57 (equiv of 3:40 1500) at USA's, his legs probably would of been fresh enough to outkick Centro.
Anyways....
Amazing performance from Rupp; he's starting to finally display he's fully capable of championship style racing.
Video?
I was impressed with him passing merga, but merga looked like crap the whole race.
He kicked 54 in a 13:06 race.
The question is can he do that in a 12:50 race.
I think Solinsky could have done the same thing Rupp did today, Im not jumping out of my seat...
yet
the fox wrote:
I was impressed with him passing merga, but merga looked like crap the whole race.
He kicked 54 in a 13:06 race.
The question is can he do that in a 12:50 race.
I think Solinsky could have done the same thing Rupp did today, Im not jumping out of my seat...
yet
Correct.
I think you'll get a better idea in Monaco where I think more of the top guns will be running (too soon to know).
More to the point will be what Rupp can do in a, say, 13:10 race in Deagu three days after a 5000m qualifying heat, and that coming, say, 5 days after a 10000.
We also know that Rupp, after running the USATF 10000, could not outkick Lagat who ran a 1500m heat the day before.
I think the real question here is whether Rupp would be better off not doing the 10000 in Deagu and just doing the 5000 like Solinsky.
solinsky fan wrote:
Windy Runners wrote:Rupp really does seem to have matured--in several ways. He is, at this time much faster than Solinsky.
Did you watch the 5000m at USAs? Lagat and Solinsky left Rupp in their wake.
I'm sure the 10k less than 48 hours before had nothing to do with it.
the fox wrote:
He kicked 54 in a 13:06 race.
The question is can he do that in a 12:50 race.
I think Solinsky could have done the same thing Rupp did today, Im not jumping out of my seat...
yet
To medal, closing in 54 in a 12:50 race isn't necessary. The last several WC 5Ks have been won in the mid to low 13s. There will be no rabbit in Daegu.
In 12 days we'll see how Rupp handles a (hopefully) faster paced 5K. If Lagat really wants to go 12:49, we'll see what happens to all the best American 5K guys in that sort of race. And we'll finally get a Rupp v Solinsky with both guys fresh and ready to go.
Problem? wrote:
solinsky fan wrote:Did you watch the 5000m at USAs? Lagat and Solinsky left Rupp in their wake.
I'm sure the 10k less than 48 hours before had nothing to do with it.
Actually, it was 24 hours before (which obviously only helps your point).
13:06.2 was Rono's WR in 1981
Rupp knocking on the door to the top 150 performers All-time now.
coach d wrote:
the fox wrote:I was impressed with him passing merga, but merga looked like crap the whole race.
He kicked 54 in a 13:06 race.
The question is can he do that in a 12:50 race.
I think Solinsky could have done the same thing Rupp did today, Im not jumping out of my seat...
yet
Correct.
I think you'll get a better idea in Monaco where I think more of the top guns will be running (too soon to know).
More to the point will be what Rupp can do in a, say, 13:10 race in Deagu three days after a 5000m qualifying heat, and that coming, say, 5 days after a 10000.
We also know that Rupp, after running the USATF 10000, could not outkick Lagat who ran a 1500m heat the day before.
I think the real question here is whether Rupp would be better off not doing the 10000 in Deagu and just doing the 5000 like Solinsky.
I don't understand... why are you questioning if Rupp should drop the 10k, his better event, just so he can be more fresh when he runs the 5k?
coach d wrote:
We also know that Rupp, after running the USATF 10000, could not outkick Lagat who ran a 1500m heat the day before.
Not really equivalent expenditures of energy - Lagat jogging a 3:44 and Rupp running a 10K even later in the day.
That said, I don't really expect much from Rupp in the 5K in Daegu. If he leaves it all on the track in the 10K he will still be too tired to be competitive in the 5.
Correction -- only highlights at the Universal Sports link. But better quality video.
Alamrew is the real deal. I believe he trained thru an injury this late spring. But dont be suprised to see him run 12:50 this year. He is a massive talent
I thought the most impressive part of Galen's race was how he stayed composed when Merga cut him off and almost threw him off balance right at the bell.
If you watch the video, Galen gets refocused and waits until just the right time to go by a desperate Merga in the last 100. That is some really mature racing by Rupp, and makes me think he has learned how to stay relaxed in physical races, a huge asset in qualifying rounds.
Absolutely Blazing!
As a UK onlooker at the US resurgence in distance running I am utterly impressed with Rupp after this race. Was not sure he could hang so close to Farah especially on a last lap sprint out but he proved it here.
Even though his finish is not meant to be that good he was strong enough to outkick:
1) Merga, 12:54 5k this year
2) Alimerew, 7:27 3k this year
This indicates Rupp is probably in sub-12:53 shape since his strength is not even his finish but a rather a fast even pace race.
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I think the thing to remember is Rupp's main event is the 10k. This is a great sign. He looks to be I'm 12:55ish shape. Although most think he was poised to break 13 in that one 5k last year. It only looks like he's improved a ton because that never transpired and lowered peoples expectations of him. If he'd gone 12:58 last year we'd be viewing this differently.
I'm a big Rupp fan but this doesn't mean he's better than solinksy yet. It's possible Solinsky is in PR shape too. But he's def closed the gap.
Rupp has always been good at staying within himself and staying focused. But yeah, that was uncharted territory for him being in a pack with gas in the tank on the last lap in an international race. Before he would usually just stick at the back of a lead pack and then the lead pack would drift away late in the race. That was Rupp staying relaxed and within himself.
Turducken wrote:
I thought the most impressive part of Galen's race was how he stayed composed when Merga cut him off and almost threw him off balance right at the bell.
If you watch the video, Galen gets refocused and waits until just the right time to go by a desperate Merga in the last 100. That is some really mature racing by Rupp, and makes me think he has learned how to stay relaxed in physical races, a huge asset in qualifying rounds.