Bianca Knight calls Carmelita jeter a drug cheat!!!!

hah, funny... I would never accuse anyone without evidence, but I have always privately suspected that Jeter is on drugs.

Nobody said that Jeter is a man. But I can assure you that Jeter is juiced. It is painfully obvious to witness the juice effects on Jeter.

What was the Jeter's PB coming out of college?

I assume sub 11 for a logical progression.

Right on Bianca.

Everyone in the sport knows Carmelita went dirty when she went to John Smith. 9 hours in the drug testing room after her 10.64 2 years ago in Shanghai and all the urine samples she provided were not valid.

Everyone needs to remember that PED's don't always make one look like Barry Bonds or Mark McGwire. The best benefit of PED's (beyond shortening injury recovery) is enhanced recovery to off set fatigue factor not building muscle mass.

Explain better.

9 hours in the testing room?

If all samples were invalid...how is that she wasn't banned?

That is true. I don't know how she got out of it, but she definitely had trouble in Shanghai in 2009.

Mrs. Sand wrote:

Jeter is HUGE coming out of the Fall when she hits the indoor circuit. She is now smaller and more defined than she was a few months ago.

She appears to be using the Conte method: testosterone or some other anabolic during the off season, when she can avoid testing. She's putting money in the bank early and uses it up through the racing season - still able to run strong into September wen the others have shot their wad.

Out of competition testing was introduced in 1988. Read the IAAF rules on the subject.

It's sad to make all these accusations of doping yet once again for atheltes who "look like the are doping ".Physical appearance does not substantiate doping.

Sir Lance-alot wrote:

Lorenzo the Magnificent wrote:

I don't have any idea whether she dopes, but in letsrun spirit I'm going to give her a nickname.

Pharmalita Jeter

Is that your own creation? If so, very nice, very nice indeed.

Yes, and thank you.

So you mean to tell me that after all the Balco scandals,and collateral damage that Marion Jones brought upon the sport,that Carmelita Jeter,who is coached by John Smith who has been through the whole Balco,and beyond era's of doping accusations,and judgements;is doping with the big spotlight upon her the last few years ? I'm sorry but I'm not buying it.

well. wrote:

Mrs. Sand wrote:

Jeter is HUGE coming out of the Fall when she hits the indoor circuit. She is now smaller and more defined than she was a few months ago.

She appears to be using the Conte method: testosterone or some other anabolic during the off season, when she can avoid testing. She's putting money in the bank early and uses it up through the racing season - still able to run strong into September wen the others have shot their wad.

Out of competition testing was introduced in 1988. Read the IAAF rules on the subject.

The Conte method suggests filling your cell phone with messages, so you can't be located. You get two free passes - enough time time to get in an effective cycle, and get clean before the third one.

"Pharmalita Jeter"

I bow to your magnificence, Lorenzo

First of all,CJ is accessible pretty much everyday for testing because she trains at West L.A College.Where anybody who wants to can go to the track and find HSI athletes with Coach John Smith at their practices.It was the same way when HSI used to train at Cal State Northridge back in 2004.I even saw a Agency tester show up for a test in February for one of their world class athletes right at the track no problem unlike other countries who are very secluded.

The CSU Dominguez Hills record book. If you think you can improve .8 in the 100 from the time you ran as a 23-24 year old you are some kind of crack based substance like crack. She is routinely running a full second faster than she ran as a junior/senior in college. Hmmmm.

Thank god solomon won the 200. I remember her at Penn when she ran an seriously awesome 4x400 anchor for LBPoly against some other good girl. They were right next to each other for literally 250meters half of backstretch/long curve/half of homestretch before she finally got away a little.

CJ ran 11.46 in 2002,before she finally got with John Smith with his Sprint training.I remember when she was improving under CSUDH coaching,so for her to become a professional with dedication,and hard work is not suprising.

Yeah and sorry but to become easily the fastest woman in the world 11.46 as a college junior is slow as shit. Thats where the .8 comes from. Maybe the Oregon girl Gardner should go and train with John Smith then she'll be running 10.1-10.2 in a few years.

Obv you can believe what you want to believe youre not going to be convinced by me or anyone else. I mean Flojo was clean too right?

Her IAAF profile is above. Her season best in 2004 was 11.56...in 2011 10.70

I think you can attribute her performances to some really good PEDs combined with great coaching and some strong dedication to the sport....everyone is giving her a hard time about taking PEDs but so many of the elite athletes do, so I can really care less about who is on and who is not on drugs anymore. If your getting your ass kicked and you don\'t like it then join the club and start injecting your ass with Anavar and call it a day! Or I guess you can also just be self-righteous and opt to succumb to getting your ass kicked at the international level....Ladies and Gentlemen...these are the facts of life!

fourjz wrote:

CJ ran 11.46 in 2002,before she finally got with John Smith with his Sprint training.I remember when she was improving under CSUDH coaching,so for her to become a professional with dedication,and hard work is not suprising.

You forgot 2007-2008 when she was coached by Larry Wade.

Well, my rehab is going very well.

In fact, I just ran an 11.2 hand-timed 100m from a 3-point stance yesterday, with a very light sideways breeze.

Let's say that's a full half-second generous, and it was really an 11.7--that means that with minimal training, which I haven't been doing, I'm still 11.5

At 44.

So maybe I should get with the program and go train with them--that would put me at 10.70--certainly a world lead in my age group.

Not feasible? That is Pharmalita's progression, exactly.

With real training, I could be a low 11.x guy--with this program, that would make me a 10.2-10.3 guy--at 44! Troy Douglas, anyone?

If this type of improvement was realistic, every elite sprinter in the US, and the rest of the world, would be knocking down the coach's door trying to get into the program.

They're not, because they're either doing the same thing wherever they are, or because they know what is going on and don't want to partake.

.8 over a college best!!!!

I ran a 10.49 once, and 10.7's all the time. Let's assume the 10.49 was an anomaly.

.8 improvement would have made me the first white guy under 10 seconds, and the 9.9 would have been a world record at the time.

What a joke.

The big question is: HOW does she not get caught? Seriously? Or she IS getting caught and it's being covered up.

Of course, it could all be natural--after all, she's not much faster than my favorite female sprinter Evelyn Ashford.

On another thread I took up for Serena Williams, saying that I have seen women with her body type who I know for a fact to have been clean.

Maybe Jeter is just a Serena who actually works out and watches her diet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know what to think anymore, but I'm more curious about PED's than ever. Any big money for master's WR's? I suppose not, or Ed Whitlock would be a billionaire.

Come to think of it, what WOULD Serena look like if she was sufficiently committed to drop a bunch of weight? Like 40 lbs?

What does Serena weigh now? 200 lbs? It's very possible--OK, say she is 5'9", she could "realistically" afford to lose that 40 lbs and still be a healthy 160, even an athletic 160.

And what would she look like? She'd look like Pharmalita on 'roids...