Uh...Webb has no business being in Hengelo now. It is way too early to be getting into European races.
His inability to let go of the 1500 will again be his downfall. He should be running the 2 at Pre and gearing up toward a shift to 5000. Webb's career as a top US miler is over. He will not resume back to the form he showed a few years ago.
untrue susan wrote:
Uh...Webb has no business being in Hengelo now. It is way too early to be getting into European races.
His inability to let go of the 1500 will again be his downfall. He should be running the 2 at Pre and gearing up toward a shift to 5000. Webb's career as a top US miler is over. He will not resume back to the form he showed a few years ago.
My point exactly...Whats better for webbs ego/confidence? Run a mediocre time and get handled in Europe or run the same time and place decent among his competition.
I would think there would be more pressure to race across seas against the world's elite rather than stay at home and race against the competitors he actually has a chance (albeit not much better) at beating. Webb needs a boost of confidence, he would have had a much better chance doing so at the Occidental 1500.
I see it a little different. I think most of webb's problems are in his head, not his body. I would bet he feels less pressure being the underdog than to be a guy in a race where he "should" beat most of the field.
I may be wrong but that is what I think.
wrong? wrote:
I see it a little different. I think most of webb's problems are in his head, not his body. I would bet he feels less pressure being the underdog than to be a guy in a race where he "should" beat most of the field.
I may be wrong but that is what I think.
Well, at least we all agree he is a head case right now. Regardless I hope he runs fast, either race should go out quick enough for him not to worry about being "boxed in."
3:35 will be tough to beat. As good as Wheating is, his first race in a long time was the 1600 split in a DMR vs. U of O at the Oregon Twilight, so I don't know if he's ready for 3:35. But he is one talented dude, so it's possible.
wheating's run faster than 3:35 once, right? until we hear about his workouts, I think it's fair to say that we don't know at all what he will run. maybe manzano will have it this time.
Does Willis already have his 3:35 qualifier? Is that why he is rabbiting?
untrue susan wrote:
Uh...Webb has no business being in Hengelo now. It is way too early to be getting into European races.
His inability to let go of the 1500 will again be his downfall. He should be running the 2 at Pre and gearing up toward a shift to 5000. Webb's career as a top US miler is over. He will not resume back to the form he showed a few years ago.
It will be humorous when you are proven wrong.
toro wrote:
USATF has the early date so they can get their team set up and travel and visa arrangemenst in place.
I believe last time they required the athletes to have the standard coming out of the trials. But prior year's times counted then.
the only time you had to have the qualifier coming out of the trials was for the Beijing Olympics because USATF wanted the 'drama' of deciding all the olympic team spots in one meet. That was in a way pretty cool, but I also love the period after USA's/OT's when everyone on 'the bubble' is over in Europe chasing fast times to try to cement their spot on the WC/OG team and you get to watch ovr a couple weeks how things shake out.
It will be interesting to see what USATF decides to do for London next year, I'm not sure which one I'm hoping for
I predict
Wheating
Manzano
Lomong
although I think there are another half dozen guys who could easily win the thing if they're on their game.
Surprised Willis is rabbiting...
Symmonds has gone sub 4, I think 3:58; and that was a few years ago. He should be able to run somewhere around 3:38.
CakeEater wrote:
Jabbles wrote:Woah Nick Symmonds is in there too. He's never struck me as a miler at all... I'm interested to see how it goes.
He's the rabbit, according to Flotrack
I hope Symmonds isn't to aggressive and goes out in 1:52. a nice smooth 1:56 will work! American meet pace setters aren't the greatist that's for sure!
Is that 8:55 Pacific Time?
Lomong is going to kill it. You heard it here first.
1)Lomong
2)Wheating
Bumbalough
where is ol ben blankenship in this?
Fab Miler wrote:
Symmonds has gone sub 4, I think 3:58; and that was a few years ago. He should be able to run somewhere around 3:38.
He ran 3:56.xx indoors actually.
57.9 for the rabbit, 59 for the group
1:57 for 800 Manzano leading
What a bunch of pussies.