And he is gonna be a daddy!!!!
And he is gonna be a daddy!!!!
Sagarin wrote:
Part of the issue there is that, with the availability of the Internet, high school kids are all now running 80+ mpw, so the bar in CO has been lowered into the 9:15 range. But the 9:30 guys off 40-50 miles per week or less are still "gems." That's where I'd look. I've seen other coaches make similar remarks on here.
I guess I see what you are saying (or trying to say), but long before the internet was invented kids ran high mileage. In fact, 80 was considered low mileage in the 70's.
And if CO kids are getting better the bar "has been raised" to the 9:15 range.
Don't you do some writing for a living?
FWIW, Western State had a similar success story with Scott Nagelkerke. He had very modest PRs from Michigan and I think he ended up running 13:44.
you guys talk like 40 mph is low for HS. I think that is quite a bit for most hs runners. I was running maybe 35 mpw in hs and ran 9:30s at mile high. It doesn't mean shiiiiit. A 9:30 guy can end up anywhere from a 14:20 to a 13:20 without anyone being shocked or surprised.
The HS 3200m record was set by a kid who averaged ~ 60 miles/week.
The HS 1600m record was set by a kid who avergaed ~ 60 miles/week.
I'm a huge fan of Brauny. I've even beat him in a few races in college before he got crazy good. But, I spit my corn flakes on my computer when I saw he ran 13:27. The dude can win.
In high school the guy wasn't even the top runner in his home town, or on his own team for that matter. He's come a long way.
I think Nagelkerke was only a 9:20 guy. Good call. Same goes for their new stud Ryan Haebe. Believe he was only a 9:3x guy, now this year as a rs freshman he's ran 8:44 for the steeple.
Adams and Western have had more diamonds in the rough than just about anyone.
Both schools have been criticized for their foreigners but people forget that these two schools have produced more GREAT runners that were average in high school than ANYONE.
Shock the world in the 10k Braun, shock the world!
What's wrong with Reporters? wrote:
I guess I see what you are saying (or trying to say), but long before the internet was invented kids ran high mileage. In fact, 80 was considered low mileage in the 70's.
But then people stopped running so much. 80 certainly was not considered low in the 90s, and it is very likely that the internet helped higher mileage come back in the 2000s.
What's wrong with Reporters? wrote:
I guess I see what you are saying (or trying to say), but long before the internet was invented kids ran high mileage. In fact, 80 was considered low mileage in the 70's.
And if CO kids are getting better the bar "has been raised" to the 9:15 range.
Don't you do some writing for a living?
As the previous poster suggested, low mileage was the norm in the 80s and 90s with a few outliers. The Internet did, in fact, "raise" the bar as you correctly assert. I don't do editorial control on letsrun, because I type fast and don't double check my work frequently, which I'm sure is the case for many letsrun posters. If it wasn't such a primitive website, it would have a post-post editorial tool, like most. The irony is that you constantly find typos and misspellings on the frontpage, which is inexcusable but understandable.
Aaron Braun is getting pretty good but he's no Ben True. We'll see proof of this at the Payton Jordan 10k.
And now to update this thread:
Aaron Braun missed the Olympic team by 5 seconds in the 10k and ran 27:41 and 13:20 this month.
He's made a really solid progression the last few years.