Andy Bayer 13:32!!

No McNeill but sub in Ulrey, Heath

rfdfvf wrote:

Bayer is wise to redshirt. Even these breakthroughs don't guarantee a podium finish against the likes of Fernandez (if healthy), Leonard Korir, Diego Estrada, Sam Chelanga, and David McNeil (I think he has one more season, right?) at NCAA outdoors. I could see Miles Batty doing some damage if he decides to run the 5k as well. The NCAA is so steep right now.

jjjjjjj wrote: Maybe that's just a tempo run, but you cannot just give someone that kind of translation to the 10k, because not everyone is trained optimally for both five and ten.

Actually you can in this case. Pretty sure everyone on here knows he can run a pretty good 10k from watching him in XC.

bayer has very good mechanics. i see potential.

fasfa wrote:

bayer has very good mechanics. i see potential.

Me too. I could see a sub-14:00 5K down the road for AndyBear

For some reason I thought AB was from Canada, but he's an Indiana local with 4:12/9:02 from HS. Along with Batty and Estrada he is a big up-and-comer for the USA.

Bayer is running about as well as Willis when he was at Michigan. Willis went on to win a silver in the Olympics (1500m). Wheating and Webb will pull him to a great time later this year.

atlas_ran wrote:

Bayer is running about as well as Willis when he was at Michigan. Willis went on to win a silver in the Olympics (1500m). Wheating and Webb will pull him to a great time later this year.

Note quite...Willis as a jr in college went 3:56i/7:44i/1:45.5/3:32.6. While his indoor mile and 3k might not be too far off (although 1 and 4 seconds at that level is a decent chunk), Willis was more of an 800/1500 guy, and dropped the hammer outdoors. Bayer has to do something pretty special outdoors to be considered "running as well" as Willis. If Bayer touches 3:32-3:33, and then makes it to the semi's at worlds, then we can talk about him running about as well as Willis.

slow down man wrote:

brakey wrote:

Is that right? That is fast as all get out.

I respectfully withdraw my comment then, but insist that a 13:32 is no summer stroll in the park mind you.

whats the cutoff speed for "stroll in the park"?

13:33.6

Pixler and Bayer had great times and biggish margins over good fields in less-than-typical Stanford conditions.

avatar wrote:

James Cameron of Washington ran 13:51!

he is a sophomore, and I believe he ran something like 14:30 last year. very impressed.

Plus he directed Avatar.

Bayer splits...thanks MD

Miles: 4:19,4:23,4:19

800's: 2:09,2:10,2:11,2:10,2:10,2:10,2:09, last 200 31

400's: 64,65,65,65,65,66,65,65,64,66,66,63,31

4:19, 8:42,13:01,31

13:32

Not quite - Willis didn't run anything close to 1:45.5/3:32.6 in March but only in late summer in Europe. Bayer could improve by as much as Wheating did last year. As an aside Willis recently ran 1:52 for 800 and 14:20 for 5K.

When Marc Davis ran 13:32 and won Mt.Sac as a sophomore (redshirt freshman) in 1989 it was mentioned with an article and a pic in TNF news. 13:32 is very fast for a 19-20 year old and probably ranks in the top 10 ever in the US for a runner that age. And clearly in a fast set-up race he could probably got at least 5 seconds faster.

He' the hottest up and coming young runner at the moment.

Free Beer wrote:

13:32 is very fast for a 19-20 year old and probably ranks in the top 10 ever in the US for a runner that age. And clearly in a fast set-up race he could probably got at least 5 seconds faster.

He' the hottest up and coming young runner at the moment.

I only had records for performances at 13:29.99 at my disposal when doing this, so I might be missing people in the 13:30-13:32 range, but nevertheless, the fastest times by US runners under 21 years, 6 months of age:

1. Rudy Chapa 13:19.22 (21 years 5 months)

2. Bob Kennedy 13:22.17 (20 years 10 months)

3. Evan Jager 13:22.18 (20 years 3 months)

4. Alberto Salazar 13:22.31 (20 years 10 months)

5. Steve Prefontaine 13:22.8 (21 years 5 months)

6. Paul Geis 13:23.38 (21 years 4 months)

7. German Fernandez 13:25.46 (18 years 7 months)

8. Dathan Ritzenhein 13:27.77 (19 years 4 months)

9. Chris Solinsky 13:27.94 (21 years 4 months)

10. Hassan Mead 13:28.45 (19 years 8 months)

11. Diego Estrada 13:29.01i (21 years 2 months)

12. Elliott Heath 13:29.75 (21 years 2 months)

13. Chris Derrick 13:29.98 (18 years 6 months)

14?. Andrew Bayer 13:32.74 (21 years 1 month)

Oh, and Bill McChesney would be number one on that list with a 13:18 if he'd been born a week later, or run his 5000m a week earlier. He's the fastest 21-and-under in U.S. history. Alan Webb is the fastest 22-and-under, with his 13:10 in 2005.

look out for the hoosiers in terre haute next year.

AndyBear is on the rise!

How old is Bayer?

I'd reckon he's under 21 and faster than a summer stroll.