GALEN RUPP!!! GREAT RACE

I think Mo Farah is now part of the same traing group as Galen Rupp.

You are the weakest link goodbye.

great performance by ruppy. took a spill. didn't freak out, competed like crazy. my guess is he'll run the thon trials next year as well 10k at track trials and take his pick

You just cannot say that the NYC half marathon course is easy IN COMPARISON TO FLAT ROAD RACES. Yes, those hills are small in comparison to hills you can find in much of the country, but they are very substantial for high profile races. Where do you get top competitors running hills in races? The World Marathon Majors courses, except for New York, which shares part of its course with this race, are all substantially easier than this course. I don't know if this course includes the Harlem Hills in the park, but those hills take you out of your rhythm and nearly everyone runs much faster on flat courses outside of New York. Take this thought project: what is faster, a course with a negative 1000m drop overall, where you climb three thousand feet and drop four thousand, or a course with a positive 100m rise, comprised of one very gradual hill over the whole race? Obviously the latter is much faster despite there being a net rise. You get an advantage from a downhill, but you get much more of a disadvantage from an uphill.

This was an expected result from Rupp. Most excellent 10k runners are going to do very well when they first move to half marathon, and within a couple marathons, they will probably run their best. Then there will be likely a gradual decline. There are guys who take longer to succeed at the marathon. But generally, as they lose contact with their track speed, they decline (see Hall).

Michael Jackson wrote:

Did he fall because he couldn't see around his face mask?

He fell due to someone grabbing his face mask. I threw a flag and gave that guy a 10 yard face maske penalty, so he finished 4th behind Rupp.

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

You just cannot say that the NYC half marathon course is easy IN COMPARISON TO FLAT ROAD RACES.

Did I say that? When? Where?

I said, very simply and very accurately Central Park is not a tough loop it's made out to be by the hobbyjoggers. American runners with much lower credentials than those who ran today have run in the 22:30s for 5 miles in Central Park. There is nothing 'slow' about it.

This is a great course for a half marathon: downhill, point-to-point with prevailing winds at their backs. A scenic tour of NYC without riding one of those double-decker buses! This year was a bonus, the winds came from the NNE, which puts the winds directly at their backs.

Let's not forget they had to run into a headwind for a few miles of this race. This is not equivalent to a flat course like the course Hall ran on for his 59:43. They run 8 miles in Central Park with rolling hills. The 5 mile course you are talking about does not include the Harlem hills which are included in this race and these are legit hills even for elite runners not just what you call hobby joggers.

The course, with the way the winds affected the race today is pretty fast.

Central Park might be a little difficult however once they head out of the park they were basically being blown home.

I think Meb and Abdi need to sail into the sunset of their careers. They are yesterday's news ...

Ryan Hall is just plain lost - what a shame - with all that talent.

Galen is the man !!! But that mask sure was goofy ,,

There is no way coach Salazar (aka the easy sleezy) would pick a difficult course for Galen, kind of like the 5K turkey trot he had him and webb run... he does this for two reasons (1) money, these races pay better (2) to scare the Africans, so they think our runners are doing better than they really are

I doubt we will ever see Solinski or Teg or Jager run one of these publicity stunts, they are coached too well

malmo wrote:

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

You just cannot say that the NYC half marathon course is easy IN COMPARISON TO FLAT ROAD RACES.

Did I say that? When? Where?

I said, very simply and very accurately Central Park is not a tough loop it's made out to be by the hobbyjoggers. American runners with much lower credentials than those who ran today have run in the 22:30s for 5 miles in Central Park. There is nothing 'slow' about it.

This is a great course for a half marathon: downhill, point-to-point with prevailing winds at their backs. A scenic tour of NYC without riding one of those double-decker buses! This year was a bonus, the winds came from the NNE, which puts the winds directly at their backs.

Malmo - how many times have you raced in CP? In the last 10 years so you have some kind of memory of it?

The hills aren't wicked hard but they keep coming at you -No one should say this is a tough course but clearly the pros had enough respect for it to go out in 5:05 today.

I race 10 seconds a mile faster in flat road races than in CP - elite guys might run 5 seconds a mile faster, I don't know.

But the hills are real for most people. Your citing one 5 mile race isn't much evidence - a few guys aren't slowed down by rolling hills - but most are.

malmo - one more thing - another poster pointed out above that the 5 mile race you cite doesn't include the two steepest hills in the NYC half - so it's apples to oranges.

let it rest ok. you wouldn't have broken 60 on it either. they are great runners, its fun to run, its fun to watch running, its fun to have fun watching running, just take it easy

ps malmo, calm down too, galen rupp is good, but he'll never beat anyone significant..

looking at the splits, Mo, Gebre and Rupp were 27:58 for the 10k section from 10-20k!!!! Some running

my man wrote:

ps malmo, calm down too, galen rupp is good, but he'll never beat anyone significant..

Don't bet the farm on it.

Even when he doesn't win it takes really good performances to beat him. One day they won't.

world class wrote:

looking at the splits, Mo, Gebre and Rupp were 27:58 for the 10k section from 10-20k!!!! Some running

Tadesse averaged 27:45 for his entire race today, and that was without the benefit of a strong wind at his hindquarters.

Alf Shrubb wrote:

Anyone who saw Mo Farah win the European indoor 3000 recently, knew there was only going to be one winner in a sprint finish.

Isn't there usually only one winner in a sprint finish?

Rupp's sprint speed is not like the others guys, he'll lose ever

time in a sprint against these cats. Nice race still, good time!

lasse veren wrote:

Galen is the man !!! But that mask sure was goofy ,,

Yup, on both points.