ACTF09 wrote:
I just looked it up and that 9:49 is now the top time in Division III history. Moves Amherst from their 13th position previous with the 9:56 from last year. MIT moves into #2 all-time with their 9:52. They were #1 before this meet with a 9:53 from 2002.
what about the banked track conversion?
honestly i dont understand why they dont take 8:45-9+min 3k and 15-16+min 5k entrants and have them compete from 9pm to 10pm. if people aren't interested they dont have to stay at the meet, can go home etc. otherwise as we have seen there is just going to be crazy overseeding and/or sucking some D just to compete at the BU Valentine meet in the 3k/5k events and some of that switching to the 1MILE run.
And with 200+ people in the 1mile run at BU Valentine you have the same problem because with so many 1mile heats it's going to take forever - doesnt matter if a kid runs 4:00 or 4:50 for the mile, the fact that you have so many heats in the mile means a lot of time just to get people seeded and lined up for the gun to go off
The source I'm using doesn't seem to differentiate between banked and unbanked. It does list the location that each time was run at though, so if you're familiar with track locations or apt enough to look it up, you could determine if one mark is technically more superior than the other one if the times are close but one was run on a flat track.
The list is ordered simply by fastest time for the event.
likiokwefawef wrote:
honestly i dont understand why they dont take 8:45-9+min 3k and 15-16+min 5k entrants and have them compete from 9pm to 10pm.
. . . because then the officials and volunteers have to stay even later than they already do. Besides, if you let in the 9+ and 16+ guys, why not let in the 10+ and 17+ guys? And the 11+ and 18+ guys, nd so on. At a certain point, you have to draw a line in the sand. Yes, the line is going to be arbitrary, and yes, people are going to get left out and try to overseed themselves to avoid getting left out, but that's going to happen regardless of where the line is drawn.
Luckily, because it's Boston, there's probably an indoor meet almost every weekend.
i DirectAtheltic'd the ppl around me in the 5k. most of them expect a 30sec PR apparently. One person had a 15:55 pr... fml
FIVE people dip under 4 minutes in the mile!! Unofficial.
Event 12 Men 1 Mile Run
Heat 1 of 17
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Name Year Team Finals
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1 van Ingen, Erik BING 3:57.11
2 Masters, Riley UME 3:58.17
3 Peters, Rich BOSU 3:58.26
4 Matthews, Julian PROV 3:58.57
5 Chaffee, Macklin RAGG 3:58.80
6 Boorsma, Kyle GUEL 4:02.80
7 Moore, John UNA 4:04.10
8 LaMastro, Anthony GMU 4:11.28
-- Lipus, Daniel IONA DNF
Where are the mile results??.. lancer has not updated yet... any more heats of the mile results??
Rojo's boy dominated heat 2 - 404ish. No way that george mason kid should have been in heat 1 over him.
Isn't that guy an NCAA qualifier already?
somuchfun wrote:
Event 12 Men 1 Mile Run
Heat 1 of 17
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Name Year Team Finals
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1 van Ingen, Erik BING 3:57.11
2 Masters, Riley UME 3:58.17
3 Peters, Rich BOSU 3:58.26
4 Matthews, Julian PROV 3:58.57
5 Chaffee, Macklin RAGG 3:58.80
6 Boorsma, Kyle GUEL 4:02.80
7 Moore, John UNA 4:04.10
8 LaMastro, Anthony GMU 4:11.28
-- Lipus, Daniel IONA DNF
Race video is up.
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&member_id=15583&video_id=36552Anyone know what happened in the first heat of the 3k?
In the 3000 it appeared that no one wanted to do the work to get after the fast time that they were capable of running early on.
On a separate note, I would love to personally call out every single solitary person who grossly misrepresented their seed times in a misguided attempt to get into the 3000 and the 5000, but I don't have all day, and neither do most of you. Furthermore it was largely college athletes, and we know that they don't always pick their own seed times.
I would encourage everyone to glance at the results from the meet this weekend and know that the slowest seed times to get into the meet were around 8:40 and 15:00. We all understand bad days, we all understand seeding based on a realistic goal time, but a whole lot of these weren't even close.
On behalf of these folks who probably don't think that they did anything wrong, I would like to apologize to the folks who seeded themselves appropriately and either found themselves in slower heats or found themselves in the bleachers.
That all being said, I would like to commend the folks who did run well, and extend a huge thank you to BU, officials, volunteers, etc for another fantastic meet. Hands down the best meet of the year.
Supper Fan wrote:
In the 3000 it appeared that no one wanted to do the work to get after the fast time that they were capable of running early on.
On a separate note, I would love to personally call out every single solitary person who grossly misrepresented their seed times in a misguided attempt to get into the 3000 and the 5000, but I don't have all day, and neither do most of you. Furthermore it was largely college athletes, and we know that they don't always pick their own seed times.
I would encourage everyone to glance at the results from the meet this weekend and know that the slowest seed times to get into the meet were around 8:40 and 15:00. We all understand bad days, we all understand seeding based on a realistic goal time, but a whole lot of these weren't even close.
On behalf of these folks who probably don't think that they did anything wrong, I would like to apologize to the folks who seeded themselves appropriately and either found themselves in slower heats or found themselves in the bleachers.
Your fault for not understanding how the system works at these BU meets. It has gotten ridiculous these past few years, but everyone knows it. Except for you. Deal with it.
Actually not personally effected by this this year, but I felt that this year was far worse than in years past. Historically you would see the top few in each heat beating their seed times.
Why not require actull times to get in... it seems like with systems like direct athletics it would not be that difficult to varify and it would stop allowing the overseeding and have the people who should get into the race get in
Supper Fan wrote:
I would encourage everyone to glance at the results from the meet this weekend and know that the slowest seed times to get into the meet were around 8:40 and 15:00. We all understand bad days, we all understand seeding based on a realistic goal time, but a whole lot of these weren't even close.
your idea of a "whole lot" is different than mine. Looking at those results, I'd say there are maybe 20 or so guys in the 5k and a dozen or so in the 3k (out of over 100 finishers btw) that didn't belong there. This is taking into account the fact that sometimes you have a bad day and it's possible to misjudge your fitness by 5-10 seconds in a 3k or 5k and make an honest mistake rather than cynically trying to game the system. To sum up, the frauds made up about 1 section's worth of runners for each race, not that big a deal. I was expecting far more people to be slower than 8:50 in the 3k than there actually were.
Gay seeding this time around