No you are right, German broke the national outdoor hs 2 mile record, he ran 835. Lindgren holds the indoor hs 2 mile record of 840.
No you are right, German broke the national outdoor hs 2 mile record, he ran 835. Lindgren holds the indoor hs 2 mile record of 840.
ok i'll bite, who is egeland?
Most people don't realize how good Lindgrens really record is. He ran 8:40 on an 11 lap to the mile board track at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. Scary to think what he would have run on a 200 meter banked Mondo track.
high school indoor 2 mile list
8:40.0 Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Wa) 1964
8:42.7 Jeff Nelson (Burbank, Ca) 1979
8:43.2' Dave Merrick (Lincoln-Way, New Lenox, Il) 1971
8:45.19 Alan Webb (South Lakes, Reston, Va) 2001
8:45.6' Craig Virgin (Lebanon, Il) 1973
Egeland is Egghead's son. Egghead was one of Batman's many arch-enemies.
Webb was a bad mofo in HS.
yeah but hes bald now
Lindgren's two mile was run against Ron Clarke who burned passed him in the last lap but it was a tremendous effort for a HS dude, especially back then! That record totally needs to go Big Time! It is way over due and Lukas is the one to do it!
Lukas's life is 10x's way more stable than Gerry's ever was! Lindgren unfortunately had the gift of "self-sabotage" and over trained/raced himself right out of the picture. He was and is a really good guy but,,,, for many years, he just couldn't find a real balance in his life and it cost him his Olympic dream. Lukas has the mind and the muscle to put this together and make it work!
Good Luck!!!!
The LetsRun.com message board posters have straightened me out. Therefore, I can say with some certainty that it doesn't really matter if Verzbicas sets any records. As long as he enjoys running, that is the one and ONLY thing matters.
Did I get it right, or is that philosophy applicable only to Sara Hall?
J. W. wrote:
high school indoor 2 mile list
8:40.0 Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Wa) 1964
8:42.7 Jeff Nelson (Burbank, Ca) 1979
8:43.2' Dave Merrick (Lincoln-Way, New Lenox, Il) 1971
8:45.19 Alan Webb (South Lakes, Reston, Va) 2001
8:45.6' Craig Virgin (Lebanon, Il) 1973
So it looks likely that 3 of the top 6 all time will be from Illinois. Also interesting to note that LV started his high school career at Lincoln-Way, the same school as Dave Merrick, the current #3 all time.
so most people think he was going to break 4... then he falls short... now most people think hes going to break 8:40... and... who knows. point is why hype this stuff up? why not just let the track meets go by and then get excited afterwards IF anything worthy happens
Lindgren made he Olympic team in the 10,000 the just after graduating high school! Had he not badly sprained his ankle a few days before the race, he might very well have earn a medal. Mills thought a healthy Lindgren would have won.
flippzip wrote:
Lindgren's two mile was run against Ron Clarke who burned passed him in the last lap but it was a tremendous effort for a HS dude, especially back then! That record totally needs to go Big Time! It is way over due and Lukas is the one to do it!
Lukas's life is 10x's way more stable than Gerry's ever was! Lindgren unfortunately had the gift of "self-sabotage" and over trained/raced himself right out of the picture. He was and is a really good guy but,,,, for many years, he just couldn't find a real balance in his life and it cost him his Olympic dream. Lukas has the mind and the muscle to put this together and make it work!
Good Luck!!!!
flippzip wrote:
He was and is a really good guy but,,,, for many years
Was he a good guy when he left his wife and kids with a note and moved to Hawaii?
He is NOT only running four meets. He has become the latest "it" runner and every media whore in town is trying to lever his new-found fame to sell tickers - - to Lukas's detriment, I might add. He has run Nike XC, Footlocker XC, the Boston mile last week, the 3200 this week, Brooks Nationals in two weeks. Basically he is running everything with no regard to a strategy or sense of proportion. This will definitely catch up with him. I love Verzbicas, but my guess is he will not come close to the HS record this weekend; last time he did a 3200 (New Balance Nationals in Greensboro), he got blown away by the high school competition, no less the pros. I don't want to see another burn out like the Rosas. Thoughts? God bless, Dingo
ILrunner wrote:
how is this pointless?
he is only running 4 meets so im pretty sure he isnt overdoing anything.
i hope he can do it! i think he will do better if he focuses on his own time, and there isn't a pack like last weekend. i think he didn't trust himself enough last weekend so he settled into the back.
verzbicas isnt even that good
flippzip wrote:
He was and is a really good guy but,,,, for many years
"Was he a good guy when he left his wife and kids with a note and moved to Hawaii?"
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How do we know that his wife wasn't a complete and total "B-otch!!" And... that she didn't cheat on him while he was out training and racing? Were the kids really even his!
If that were true, I would have left her stupid ass too!
Does he have a chance to break it....yes
he has the speed to do it. It has to be perfect. Sleep, eat, training, pace of race, nerves etc........there are so many factors that he cant control.
Will he break it.....I think so.
Does he have a chance to break it....yes
he has the speed to do it. It has to be perfect. Sleep, eat, training, pace of race, nerves etc........there are so many factors that he cant control.
Will he break it.....I think so.
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I think he is capable as well! He knows that he can easily go through the first mile well under 4:20, but not too much under! He's got to save it for that 2000 -2500 meter zone where you're neither kicking it in, nor running on adrenaline from the start. That's usually where the pace of the race can slip out from under you. If he makes it through that part on target, I think he can nail this and bring it home in around 8:35!
J. W. wrote:
8:43.2' Dave Merrick (Lincoln-Way, New Lenox, Il) 1971
Did he look anything like his great-grandfather?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_MerrickHonestly, I don't think Verzbicas will do it. He's certainly got a lot of great victories lined up, but his times are not unprecedented. He's not run the sort of times Ritz was running in high school...his Footlocker Champs best is a full thirty seconds behind Ritz's. And even Ritz couldn't managed to take down Lindgren's 5K outdoor record. It took Rupp, who trained specifically for that record. And if you compare mile times, Lindgren's mile best in HS was two seconds ahead of Lukas's. And when you're talking about a four minute mile, two second might as well be twenty.
Lindgren had that perfect combination of speed and endurance, which made him devastating in the field. He was able to beat himself into the ground.
Verzbicas, as another poster pointed out, has been piling on races without a strategy or a goal. He can't be terribly fresh, and yet he's trying to run the race of his life, but of the lives of EVERY runner since Lindgren in '64.
It's not impossible, but highly improbable. If he's gonna do it, he has to take a lesson from Lindgren's recent interview on the subject. He's gotta be willing to run is own race, to not play the old bullshit rules of sitting on the rabbit and kicking. He's gotta go out, run his race, run until he's got nothing left, and then run that last lap even harder.