Old Man by the Sea wrote:
Dang Joe , pretty fast time huh ? its only a mile !
Yeah he was gone right from the start. That was a different race altogether. Really humbling.
Old Man by the Sea wrote:
Dang Joe , pretty fast time huh ? its only a mile !
Yeah he was gone right from the start. That was a different race altogether. Really humbling.
67 miles for me this week. Training was made much easier when I decided to go to the Dr to get seen for the cold/flu/sinus crap I've been fighting for the last 4 weeks. Surprise surprise, the meds allowed me to breathe much better and it showed in my training this week.
Tue did 6 x 1000, tolerated it fine
Thu did a 6 mile tempo effort and it went very well
Sat did 3 x 2 mile on the track with each 2 mile faster than the previous (12:11,12:04,11:49) Felt really strong
Sun topped it off with an 18 miler that went very well.
Watched all the XC races online yesterday. Got a kick out of seeing Muddy Girl and SoCal Pete, I posted a comment at about 6k that it looked as though Pete was just lurking in the back!
Pete, loved your comments in the interview regarding overworking...shared them with a couple of my runners this am on our long run.
Welcome home RUN! Enjoy your time home, safe travels and safe missions when you go back.
Go Steelers!
Where is MG's comments ? anyone have a link to her race ?
Saturday: Speed test
2 sets 5 x200
600 jog/walk between sets
1 set +2.1 over 28 AVG:(28.42)
Set #2 27.09, 27.81, 28.04, 28.06, 26.28 AVG (27.45)
Feeling quick.
FanTAStic racing in San Diego! Muy congratulations are in order to all the usual suspects --Pete, Cush, MG, etc. And RUN is home as well. All good news.
In order to avoid overdoing it, I have switched from 6 days a week to 5 days a week of training. My recovery just wasn't happening. The 5 is working much better. It seemed to coincide with turning 50, hmmmmm.....
On the always fun subject of "kicking the hiney of younger runners", I challenged my son to a 50m sprint.
I didn't make it longer than that, as his 17 year old testosterone laden body would get the best of me beyond 50 meters. I beat him out of the blocks but the kid caught me around 35 meters. I held him off until the finish, so it was a tie but he was coming up quickly. If the race was any longer he would have beaten his poor old mom. Plus I was breathing heavily after we were done but he was still fresh. Ah, youth.
radio, hope you are back to running healthy sooner then later.
48 miles in 5 days and I haven't had an opportunity to over do it yet, but will most likely try if I have the time. Got in 13 at a good clip saturday and 90 minutes in the ice and snow earlier in the week. Still maintaining during a really bad winter...I hope Punxatawney Phil is right! I really wish I was in San Diego for 70 degrees, that would have thawed me out.
Average_Joe wrote:
I was in a masters mile this weekend that the winner won in 4:19.
I was next to last. Just happy I didn't get lapped!
Maybe you sould run in a faster race.
This is a transcription to the interview Pete gave after his race.
Interviewer: “What’s your secret to your consistency over the years?”
Pete:” I don’t train like an idiot, which is something that most of my peers can’t seem to grab a hold of.”
Interviewer: “Explain.”
Pete: “Almost all masters runners train too hard. You know, they take what they want to run for a race… they make that their pace for their intervals. They go out… they run that pace even when they may have run 15 miles the day before. Even when it may be one of those ‘masters’ days. They woke up on the wrong side of the bed and stepped into one of their parent’s legs instead of their own. So, you have to adjust every day. You can’t work too hard. It’s all about effort. Slow distance. Slow intervals. Plenty of time to recover, and then have confidence in yourself.”
My question is this: Are you the idiot he's talking about? If so, why not stop being an idiot and adopt Pete's training philosophy? Pete's nobody special. He's just another masters runner like the rest of us... having a good time, yet he buried guys in this race that should have handed him his ass. Could it be that he's right??
I hope newbies are welcome in this thread.
I noticed this thread years ago (before I became a masters) and of course figured I would never have any reason to actually post here, but, alas, I determined much to my eternal surprise about one year ago that we all either die or eventually become masters. :)
So, it seems, reaching the age of 40 does bring more injuries. I've been battling SI joint and/or labral tear for 3 years. Finally found a decent PT 6 weeks ago and have made decent progress; she told me just to ramp up my running and we will deal with the "consequences" in PT.
Therefore, in maybe my third week of running after 6 months of zero, I managed 29 miles this week. Yesterday was my longest run in a long time--7 whole whopping miles, which felt more difficult than 7 used to feel, that's for sure.
Hoping for 32 or 33 next week . . . also hoping this injury will get better. . . and hoping that running will start to feel easy again soon.
Very nice to read the other race/training reports!
M 14.3 1:42:23 after hacking up a lot, ran sub 7 for last 8.5. legs good, pneumonia or bronchitis bad.
T 14.3 part w/stroller. (close 6:14 high knees), w/wts/situps and 1.3M TMill in 8:52. overdressed.
W 14.3 a.m. solo 10.3M-1:08:06 (10M-1:05:20).
no w/u, 6M Tempo-37:01 (6:07/5:59/6:25/6:23/6:15/5:55). 1-2 min.coughing fit at 17:24. 2 min rest, 4M-28:18 (14:38/7:10/6:30), p.m. 4M-28:18. calves
Th 14.4 11.1M-1:27:40 (last mile in 6:04) w/stop at gym, wts, situps, planks, 3.3M TMill-21:52. getting better, still congested, coughing, lungs less obstructed.
F 14.4 11.1M-1:34:44, w/stop at gym, situps, planks, 3.3M TMill-21:32 (hr130@627). felt great on TMill but still coughing, some congestion.
Sa 14.4 11.1M-1:27:39 (last mile in 5:44) w/stop at gym, wts,situps,planks, 3.3M TMill-20:02. held 6 pace, but it was tough (hot). good finish outside, getting healthier.
Su 14.5 6.5M w/stroller. eve. 8M-57 low. (6:47/10:53/10:57/10:39/low 11/6:44). hit laptime when I stopped for the dry heave at start of 4th lap.
7th straight 100M week, getting healthier, lungs are not yet clear and hacking up a lung continued all week. For what it's worth, my woman got exactly the same thing a couple days before me (over two weeks ago), she stopped exercising, and started taking antibiotics four or five days ago, and she is worse off than me, even getting sick again this weekend. So, there's your scientific test as to whether you should keep running when you're sick. On the negative side, my goal race (a half marathon) came and went this weekend and I don't think that I'll be 100 percent and fit for another two weeks.
Explain yourself wrote:
This is a transcription to the interview Pete gave after his race.
Interviewer: “What’s your secret to your consistency over the years?”
Pete:” I don’t train like an idiot, which is something that most of my peers can’t seem to grab a hold of.”
Interviewer: “Explain.”
Pete: “Almost all masters runners train too hard. You know, they take what they want to run for a race… they make that their pace for their intervals. They go out… they run that pace even when they may have run 15 miles the day before. Even when it may be one of those ‘masters’ days. They woke up on the wrong side of the bed and stepped into one of their parent’s legs instead of their own. So, you have to adjust every day. You can’t work too hard. It’s all about effort. Slow distance. Slow intervals. Plenty of time to recover, and then have confidence in yourself.”
My question is this: Are you the idiot he's talking about? If so, why not stop being an idiot and adopt Pete's training philosophy? Pete's nobody special. He's just another masters runner like the rest of us... having a good time, yet he buried guys in this race that should have handed him his ass. Could it be that he's right??
Can you tell me how many miles a week he runs? Some say 95 to a 110 a week!!
Explain yourself wrote:
This is a transcription to the interview Pete gave after his race.
Interviewer: “What’s your secret to your consistency over the years?”
Pete:” I don’t train like an idiot, which is something that most of my peers can’t seem to grab a hold of.”
Interviewer: “Explain.”
Pete: “Almost all masters runners train too hard. You know, they take what they want to run for a race… they make that their pace for their intervals. They go out… they run that pace even when they may have run 15 miles the day before. Even when it may be one of those ‘masters’ days. They woke up on the wrong side of the bed and stepped into one of their parent’s legs instead of their own. So, you have to adjust every day. You can’t work too hard. It’s all about effort. Slow distance. Slow intervals. Plenty of time to recover, and then have confidence in yourself.”
My question is this: Are you the idiot he's talking about? If so, why not stop being an idiot and adopt Pete's training philosophy? Pete's nobody special. He's just another masters runner like the rest of us... having a good time, yet he buried guys in this race that should have handed him his ass. Could it be that he's right??
What is Pete best 10k and Half marathon time?
Welcome aboard, new folks are always welcome. Hope your injuries get better.
I think this an example of the kind of idiocy Pete is talking about. Here's a perfect example: jjjjj, sicker than a dog. Self exclaims that on Monday of last week he's coughing up junk with pneumonia or bronchitis symptoms, yet still runs 14+ miles a day in 1:43:23. He's a masters runner for crying out loud!
I can tell you this, if I had run 7 weeks of 100+ miles/week I'd be breaking world records in the open class by now. There's a big disconnect some where in this man's mind. What in the world are you trying to achieve jjjjj?
Who cares how many miles/week Pete runs? Who cares what his PRs are in the 10K and the Half Marathon? All I know is that the man handed everybody their ass in USA XC Masters 8K yesterday and handed everybody their ass at Masters Club XC. On top of that, he's 49 years old when science and the general consensus says he ought to be running with a cane. Gimme a break!
Explain yourself wrote:
I think this an example of the kind of idiocy Pete is talking about. Here's a perfect example: jjjjj, sicker than a dog. Self exclaims that on Monday of last week he's coughing up junk with pneumonia or bronchitis symptoms, yet still runs 14+ miles a day in 1:43:23. He's a masters runner for crying out loud!
I can tell you this, if I had run 7 weeks of 100+ miles/week I'd be breaking world records in the open class by now. There's a big disconnect some where in this man's mind. What in the world are you trying to achieve jjjjj?
You are running 100 a week!!
Explain yourself wrote:
Who cares how many miles/week Pete runs? Who cares what his PRs are in the 10K and the Half Marathon? All I know is that the man handed everybody their ass in USA XC Masters 8K yesterday and handed everybody their ass at Masters Club XC. On top of that, he's 49 years old when science and the general consensus says he ought to be running with a cane. Gimme a break!
How many miles a week is Pete running?
pete's masters' pr's (from memory: I just read a couple runningtimes articles in which he discusses his training and his program for 5k training): 3:55 1500, 8:31 3k, 14:33 5k, 31:27 10k.
Yes, I was sicker than a dog the past two weeks but as I mentioned, I don't get healthy any faster when I stop running while sick, and another person with the same thing has not gotten better any faster than me. So the only harm this has done me has been that it's made it tough to run, and I can take tough. I'll work however hard it takes to get there without getting injured. I just cannot take losing the tremendous shape that I was in after 3 to 5 weeks of the 100 mpw diet. (I've run many 100 mile weeks over the past three years (4200/4400/nearly 4500 miles over the past three years)).
Now you might say that it's counterproductive to work too hard, as per Magill's words. But I think that he is just a tad more talented than I am, and seriously he does some pretty hard training himself, e.g. 20x400m in 70 (5k effort) w/100m jog or 3x(mile (15k pace),1200 (5k?),800 (3k pace),400 (mile pace)) w/400m jog. In any case, my training was going great, I was running comfortably in some workouts with or ahead of some 25:xx college xc guys before getting ill and I think that with health soon I'll have a chance to nail a handful of my lifetime pr's again, as I did two years ago. Anyway, it's fun to be set up as the posterchild for overtraining.
MKO(O( wrote:
Explain yourself wrote:I think this an example of the kind of idiocy Pete is talking about. Here's a perfect example: jjjjj, sicker than a dog. Self exclaims that on Monday of last week he's coughing up junk with pneumonia or bronchitis symptoms, yet still runs 14+ miles a day in 1:43:23. He's a masters runner for crying out loud!
I can tell you this, if I had run 7 weeks of 100+ miles/week I'd be breaking world records in the open class by now. There's a big disconnect some where in this man's mind. What in the world are you trying to achieve jjjjj?
You are running 100 a week!!
If you run 100 miles a week, you sould be under 31:20 on the track.