Mr. Obvious wrote:
A Skeptic wrote:Length can definitely make a difference.
That's what she said.
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Mr. Obvious wrote:
A Skeptic wrote:Length can definitely make a difference.
That's what she said.
Audio?
Keith Stone wrote:
There are places that have 400 meter indoor tracks...
Can you list a couple? I would like to see what the arenas look like. Most indoor domes that I have seen are football based with the seating right up to the field so their isn't room for a track outside of the field.
Thanks.
They aren't housed in arenas--more like field houses. Large facilities with not a lot of seating. The infields have everything from tennis to basketball courts as well as field event equipment. There's no indoor football stadium with a track around the field in the US. Ottawa has a four-lane indoor 400m training facility and there's one in Anchorage, AK. I think Coghlan ran a "world record" indoor mile in New Jersey somewhere but it didn't count since it was on a 400m track. Not sure where the others are.
Wowsers wrote:
Keith Stone wrote:There are places that have 400 meter indoor tracks...
Can you list a couple? I would like to see what the arenas look like. Most indoor domes that I have seen are football based with the seating right up to the field so their isn't room for a track outside of the field.
Thanks.
Er... wrote:
They aren't housed in arenas--more like field houses. Large facilities with not a lot of seating. The infields have everything from tennis to basketball courts as well as field event equipment. There's no indoor football stadium with a track around the field in the US. Ottawa has a four-lane indoor 400m training facility and there's one in Anchorage, AK. I think Coghlan ran a "world record" indoor mile in New Jersey somewhere but it didn't count since it was on a 400m track. Not sure where the others are.
They just built one somewhere in Ohio and it's in a big fieldhouse. I looked for some links because someone posted them some time ago when it opened, no luck finding them so far. I think their plans were it was going to become some sort of running "destination" for people wanting to train in the winter.
I've seen pictures of some others, but none of them were an "arena".
A Skeptic wrote: Length can definitely make a difference.
Mr. Obvious wrote: That's what she said.
Um, no. Girth definitely makes a difference. Too much length is a waste.
using this :
http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/200altwind.html
& extrapolating from the "lane" function, the best ballpark conversion for converting from 200m unbanked to 400m outdoors is
~ 101/102
for banking, you reduce the 200m indoor times for 200m by about 0.1 - 0.2 depending on height of bank ( there is formula for this & other indoor distances, but you have to ask nicely : ) )
interestingly komen's 7'24i works out virtually same as his 7'20
watchout wrote:
A Skeptic wrote:I used to run 200s on a 176 yd./ 10 lap to the mile dirt track. Going hard, like just short of sprinting, I could go like 28, whereas I can hit 26 on a 400 meter track at the same effort. Length can definitely make a difference.
Ah, but the important question isn't how Dempsy would compare to a flat 10 lap/mile dirt track, but rather a banked mondo 200m track, as that is what is considered "legal". And if those banked mondo 200m tracks run just about as fast as a 400m track, as they seem to do, why is a 307m (and I believe flat?) track considered "illegal"? As it wouldn't be any faster to any significant degree, unless similarly banked, it makes no sense to consider the similarly fast track "legal".
But who cares... it's indoors! The season when no one really cares, because they are just looking forward to the real, outdoor track season, and not just because everyone is running on virtually identical (sans the surface or altitude) tracks.
Yeah, I know there are significant differences between tracks, esp. a flat dirt track and most others, but if you run pretty quick on a 176 yd. track you feel like you're going to go flying off when you go around the turns!
Keith Stone wrote:
They just built one somewhere in Ohio and it's in a big fieldhouse. I looked for some links because someone posted them some time ago when it opened, no luck finding them so far. I think their plans were it was going to become some sort of running "destination" for people wanting to train in the winter.
I've seen pictures of some others, but none of them were an "arena".
You're thinking of the GaREAT Sports Complex in Ohio. It's 300 meters or so. I don't believe there are any 400 meter indoor tracks in the US.
is that the field house in Akron Ohio?
In Utah. Not 400 meters, but close (442 meters)...
Running Track
Just outside the "The Fastest Ice on Earth" sits what we hope will become "The Fastest Indoor Track on Earth."
This beautiful 442-meter Mondo Super X track circles the oval with four lanes of the best running surface under your feet possible. The front straightaway features an eight-lane, 110-meter sprint zone. Regardless of the season, runners train in a climate-controlled environment, averaging 63-65 degrees year-round.